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Title: Disperse
Post by: Destore117 on March 04, 2014, 12:16:49 AM
Opponent plays {Whip of Erebos} I play {Disperse} to return it to their hand.
Can they activate its ability before this resolves to bring back a {Grey Merchant of Asphodel}?
Title: Re: Disperse
Post by: MementoMori on March 04, 2014, 01:08:58 AM
Yes. Actually, you can't cast Disperse before they get a chance to activate Whip.

Assuming they cast Whip normally, once it resolves, it is the main phase of their turn, the stack is empty, and they have priority - all the conditions for casting a sorcery, which the Whip activation requires. And because they have priority, they can use it before you can do anything.

Now, if they passed priority to you, you cast Disperse, and they want to respond with an activation, well, they're SoL.
Title: Re: Disperse
Post by: Millionlittlee on March 04, 2014, 01:16:11 AM
Quote from: MementoMori on March 04, 2014, 01:08:58 AM
Yes. Actually, you can't cast Disperse before they get a chance to activate Whip.

Assuming they cast Whip normally, once it resolves, it is the main phase of their turn, the stack is empty, and they have priority - all the conditions for casting a sorcery, which the Whip activation requires. And because they have priority, they can use it before you can do anything.

Now, if they passed priority to you, you cast Disperse, and they want to respond with an activation, well, they're SoL.

I almost said you could activate it in response but then I remembered it can only be used as a sorcery. Lol
Title: Re: Disperse
Post by: particle on March 04, 2014, 01:23:23 AM
Quote from: Millionlittlee on March 04, 2014, 01:16:11 AM
Quote from: MementoMori on March 04, 2014, 01:08:58 AM
Yes. Actually, you can't cast Disperse before they get a chance to activate Whip.

Assuming they cast Whip normally, once it resolves, it is the main phase of their turn, the stack is empty, and they have priority - all the conditions for casting a sorcery, which the Whip activation requires. And because they have priority, they can use it before you can do anything.

Now, if they passed priority to you, you cast Disperse, and they want to respond with an activation, well, they're SoL.

I almost said you could activate it in response but then I remembered it can only be used as a sorcery. Lol

now they just need to print a {quicken} for activated abilities.

edit: would have to be for non pw abilities.
Title: Re: Disperse
Post by: Tonygrabowski4 on March 04, 2014, 02:37:52 AM
Whip would be so much better without that last line of text.
Title: Re: Disperse
Post by: Erik_the_gray on March 04, 2014, 09:49:55 AM
Doesn't some kind of summoning sickness prevent them from using the artifact's tap ability the turn they play it?
Title: Re: Disperse
Post by: MuggyWuggy on March 04, 2014, 10:08:21 AM
Nope

Unless its an artifact creature; you may tap an artifact immediately as it hits the field or that same turn(if its ability is at sorcery speed like whip)

(Ie {tormods crypt} ) - play for 0, tap/sac to exile GY
Title: Re: Disperse
Post by: rarehuntertay on March 04, 2014, 10:08:33 AM
No. Artifacts are not affected by sickness, unless they are creatures.
Title: Re: Disperse
Post by: Erik_the_gray on March 04, 2014, 10:16:04 AM
Cool thanks for clarification.
Title: Re: Disperse
Post by: Destore117 on March 04, 2014, 01:33:29 PM
Okay thanks! I was play testing my black vs blue decks and just wasn't sure on timing here. So I'd play the whip. Receive priority, activate it, then pass priority? Got it.