1 {Phenax, God of Deception} 1 {Command Tower} 1 {Temple of Deceit} 1 {Evolving Wilds} 17 {Swamp} 17 {Island} 1 {Dimir Aqueduct} 1 {Transguild Promenade} 1 {Dimir Guildgate}
40 lands
1 {Academy Elite} 1 {Daring Thief} 1 {Knacksaw Clique} 1 {Eater of the Dead} 1 {Dimir Doppelganger} 1 {Ludevic's Test Subject} 1 {Mortivore} 1 {Sewer Nemesis} 1 {Hedron Crab} 1 {Arbiter of the Ideal} 1 {Siren of the Silent Song} 1 {Consuming Aberration} 1 {Nightveil Specter} 1 {Hunted Phantasm} 1 {Wrexial, the Risen Deep} 1 {Wight of Precinct Six} 1 {Duskmantle Guildmage} 1 {Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur} 1 {Ætherling} 1 {Nighthowler} 1 {Geralf's Mindcrusher} 1 {Lazav, Dimir Mastermind} 1 {Dreamborn Muse} 1 {Oona, Queen of the Fae} 1 {Riddlekeeper}
25 creatures
1 {Cyclonic Rift} 1 {Plea for Power} 1 {Umbral Mantle} 1 {Altar of Dementia} 1 {Sadistic Sacrament} 1 {Illusionist's Bracers} 1 {Extract from Darkness} 1 {Keening Stone} 1 {Increasing Confusion} 1 {Sands of Delirium} 1 {Shared Trauma} 1 {Mind Funeral} 1 {Jace, Memory Adept} 1 {Induce Paranoia} 1 {Traumatize} 1 {Broken Ambitions} 1 {Intruder Alarm} 1 {Preordain} 1 {Fact or Fiction} 1 {Brainstorm} 1 {Grindclock} 1 {Bonehoard} 1 {Gild} 1 {Forced Fruition} 1 {Psychic Intrusion} 1 {Psychic Strike} 1 {Tunnel Vision} 1 {Countermand} 1 {Ill-Gotten Gains} 1 {Mind Grind} 1 {Mindcrank} 1 {Telemin Performance} 1 {Soul Ransom} 1 {Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver}
34 other spells
Sideboard
Notes: Missing cards are {Academy Elite} and {Extract from Darkness} from Conspiracy.
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Any recommendations?
{Inkwell Leviathan} {Lord of the Void} and {Grozoth}
Might need. More creatures? In a multiplayer game you're going to have to deal with milling lots of people out,mand avoiding board wipes.
I think you're right that I have to have more creatures. I'm not too sure what to take out though.
One you can go ahead and take out is {Breaking // Entering}. It's not legal because of {Entering}'s {R} mana symbol.
You might want to replace one of your lands with {Nephalia Drownyard} if you have it.
{Sands of Delirium} isn't as good as I want it to be. I suppose it's still a use for untapped lands at the end of the turn before yours, but as a milling source, it's rather inefficient. I would almost prefer {Ghoulcaller's Bell}. It's got a much lower maximum effect, but it hits all players and doesn't cost any mana.
{Glimpse the Unthinkable} is apparently a money card, but it would be nice here. {Followed Footsteps} would be great on {Geralf's Mindcrusher}.
Thanks for the recommendations. I didn't really think about the Entering. I kind of disassembled my standard mill to make this. Thanks.
Library of Leng: don't let discard happen to you :)
Also this is very close to my lazav build and I would recommend you try him as commander instead as he benefits more from milling
Cool.
I thought about Lazav for a while, but I like Phenax better.
Although my heart is with the Dimir on Ravnica, I think that they won't mind their cross-planar cohort leading.
Actually, I also considered Szadek, Oona and Wrexial along with Lazav and Mirko, but I thought that Phenax's ability is best for milling rather than benefitting from it.
I could probably do an article, because mill is my favorite archetype.
Basically in short:
Szadek is cool, but does no Command Dmg.
Oona is probably second best IMO but depends on how much mana you have.
Wrexial is dependent on your opponent having Inst./Sorc.
Lazav is amazing but doesn't mill at all. He depends on other mill spells to make him good.
Mirko is average and is a Mind Funeral on a flying stick. Pretty good, but has no synergy.
The other Modern ones (because the old ones are awful) I do not own. (Circu, Dralnu, Sygg, Vela, and Wydwen) nor do I wish to own, really.
That was long. Oh well.
Thanks for the advice.
{Nemesis of Reason}?
Definitely. On my buy list.
Updated.
{Eater of the Dead}
Quote from: DrainCleaner on June 11, 2014, 11:22:36 AM
{Eater of the Dead}
How have I missed that? That's awesome.
Mana base stuff.
{Darkslick Shores}
{Watery Grave}
{Bad River} (budget fetch)
{Creeping Tar Pit}
I think {lord of extinction} would synergize pretty well. As you make people mill more it gets bigger which can help make people mill even more. maybe some things like {umbral mantle} to untap?
Quote from: Jigilishious on June 13, 2014, 12:16:32 PM
I think {lord of extinction} would synergize pretty well. As you make people mill more it gets bigger which can help make people mill even more. maybe some things like {umbral mantle} to untap?
{Lord of Exinction} is not legal in a {U}{B} commander deck due to {G} being in it's casting cost
Where's {Cyclonic Rift}? Lol
Quote from: DylanW18 on June 13, 2014, 12:23:44 PM
Where's {Cyclonic Rift}? Lol
On my buy list, apparently. I looked it up and apparently it's $3. I haven't updated my prices in a bit. No longer out of budget.
Update!
+ {Knacksaw Clique}, {Eater of the Dead}, {Illusionist's Bracers}, {Altar of Dementia}, {Daring Thief} and {Umbral Mantle} because combos...
+ {Academy Elite}, {Plea for Power}, and {Extract from Darkness} because Conspiracy finally got added
+ {Cyclonic Rift} because what's a blue deck without it?
+ {Sadistic Sacrament} to get rid of those pesky shuffle graveyard things: Eldrazi, {Elixir of Immortality}, {Gaea's Blessing}, and {Psychic Spiral}.
{bloodchief ascension}
{psychic spiral} I think is the card. From the RTR block there is a card which takes all cards in ur graveyard and shuffles them back into your libary, then your opponent mill's the amount of cards that went back into your libary. It works amazingly well in my mill deck. Also don't know if I saw it but {elite arcanist} has so so so many uses it's one of my favorite utility cards in any blue deck.
Quote from: Yawgmoth85 on August 05, 2014, 05:12:59 PM
{psychic spiral} I think is the card. From the RTR block there is a card which takes all cards in ur graveyard and shuffles them back into your libary, then your opponent mill's the amount of cards that went back into your libary. It works amazingly well in my mill deck. Also don't know if I saw it but {elite arcanist} has so so so many uses it's one of my favorite utility cards in any blue deck.
I rarely have any cards in my own graveyard unless I have {Dreamborn Muse} and I only have 7 instants: 3 of which are counterspells.
Personally I don't think those are worth a spot.
Both of those cards were in my earlier builds when this was my Standard deck though. Sorry. Thanks for the thoughts though.