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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: imFourth of Phils on February 25, 2014, 05:34:23 AM

Title: Enchant Creature
Post by: imFourth of Phils on February 25, 2014, 05:34:23 AM
in play, make inkmoth nexus an artifact creature 1/1, plus attached rancor on it, making it 3/1, what will happen to rancor at end of turn? thanks
Title: Re: Enchant Creature
Post by: Gorzo on February 25, 2014, 05:42:45 AM
{Rancor} will be moved to the graveyard, then returned to your hand via its triggered ability.

{Inkmoth Nexus} is no longer a creature, so the "enchant creature" aura is no longer valid.

Because Rancor was on the battlefield when it gets moved to the graveyard for not having a valid target anymore, it's triggered ability is added to the stack. Assuming nothing silly like {Stifle} comes by to stop it, it will then return to your hand.

Edit: fixed, had Rancor's trigger wrong! It toly doesnt say "when enchanted creature dies" but rather aomething very different. Whoops!
Title: Re: Enchant Creature
Post by: imFourth of Phils on February 25, 2014, 05:46:00 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 25, 2014, 05:42:45 AM
{Rancor} will be moved to the graveyard, then returned to your hand via its triggered ability.

{Inkmoth Nexus} is no longer a creature, so the "enchant creature" aura is no longer valid.

Edit: fixed, had Rancor's trigger wrong!

ohh, thank you :) sorry i forgot to use the curly brackets
Title: Re: Enchant Creature
Post by: imFourth of Phils on February 25, 2014, 06:54:33 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 25, 2014, 05:42:45 AM
{Rancor} will be moved to the graveyard, then returned to your hand via its triggered ability.

{Inkmoth Nexus} is no longer a creature, so the "enchant creature" aura is no longer valid.

Because Rancor was on the battlefield when it gets moved to the graveyard for not having a valid target anymore, it's triggered ability is added to the stack. Assuming nothing silly like {Stifle} comes by to stop it, it will then return to your hand.

Edit: fixed, had Rancor's trigger wrong! It toly doesnt say "when enchanted creature dies" but rather aomething very different. Whoops!

hey, one more thing, how about {Delver of Secrets} for example i put {Rancor} or {Forced Adaptation}, what if the time the DoS transforms? does the enchant still with it? thanks
Title: Re: Enchant Creature
Post by: Gorzo on February 25, 2014, 07:26:05 AM
It will stay with a "flip" card like {Delver of Secrets}. When two-sided cards change sides, they remain the same object/card, so the aura stays attached. And it's still a creature on the other side, so it won't fall off like with the Inkmoth nexus no longer being a creature.
Title: Re: Enchant Creature
Post by: imFourth of Phils on February 25, 2014, 07:31:49 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 25, 2014, 07:26:05 AM
It will stay with a "flip" card like {Delver of Secrets}. When two-sided cards change sides, they remain the same object/card, so the aura stays attached. And it's still a creature on the other side, so it won't fall off like with the Inkmoth nexus no longer being a creature.

thank you :) more questions soon