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Title: Blood Scrivener
Post by: ImTheGuy on February 24, 2014, 03:53:18 PM
So what happens when I have two {Blood Srivener} out and no cards in my hand and draw?
Title: Re: Blood Scrivener
Post by: MtJesus-Johnson on February 24, 2014, 03:58:29 PM
Quote from: ImTheGuy on February 24, 2014, 03:53:18 PM
So what happens when I have two {Blood Srivener} out and no cards in my hand and draw?
It's sort of odd, but apparently you draw one more card and lose one additional life for each Blood Scrivener beyond the first. The second one's ability replaces the first draw from the first's ability, so with two you end up drawing three cards and losing two life.
Title: Re: Blood Scrivener
Post by: ImTheGuy on February 24, 2014, 04:00:26 PM
Awesome. Thanks, man.
Title: Re: Blood Scrivener
Post by: MtJesus-Johnson on February 24, 2014, 04:04:36 PM
Quote from: ImTheGuy on February 24, 2014, 04:00:26 PM
Awesome. Thanks, man.
Glad to help! 👌
Title: Re: Blood Scrivener
Post by: Birdbrain on February 24, 2014, 04:13:57 PM
Strangely, I think its full potential may be modern. In hellbent decks...that is if you can get them competitive...hmmmm. I've never made a {B}{R} deck before. I'm going to see if I can make this idea, and make it competitive. Maybe a {sire of insanity} + unearth deck? I don't know
Title: Re: Blood Scrivener
Post by: Birdbrain on February 24, 2014, 04:22:25 PM
Wow. The hellbent cards suck...this is going to be a challange
Title: Re: Blood Scrivener
Post by: Lyriczulu on February 24, 2014, 05:35:16 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 24, 2014, 04:22:25 PM
Wow. The hellbent cards suck...this is going to be a challange
{Infernal Tutor} is an awesome hellbent card
Title: Re: Blood Scrivener
Post by: Sardok on February 24, 2014, 06:48:10 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on February 24, 2014, 04:05:57 PM
That is correct
Their abilities hit the stack
Each one says "it is his upkeep and he has no cards, he needs me, I trigger"
Because both have triggered, the second one doesn't care that you drew a card already, he did his thing to help.

Draw a card for the turn, a card for BS 1 and a third card for BS 2

From the card rulings:
4/15/2013   Each additional Blood Scrivener you control will effectively add one card and 1 life lost. Say you control two Blood Scriveners and would draw a card while you have no cards in hand. The effect of one Blood Scrivener will replace the event "draw a card" with "draw two cards and lose 1 life." The effect of the other Blood Scrivener will replace the drawing of the first of those two cards with "draw two cards and lose 1 life." You'll draw two cards and lose 1 life, then draw another card and lose another 1 life.

Also, these are replacement effects, not triggered abilities, so they do not use the stack.
Title: Re: Blood Scrivener
Post by: Birdbrain on February 24, 2014, 07:09:12 PM
Quote from: Lyriczulu on February 24, 2014, 05:35:16 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 24, 2014, 04:22:25 PM
Wow. The hellbent cards suck...this is going to be a challange
{Infernal Tutor} is an awesome hellbent card
that and {demonfire} were the only ones I picked my first time around looking at them