Predator Ooze
60 cards, 0 sideboard
24 {Forest}
24 lands
4 {Dungrove Elder}
4 {Birds of Paradise}
2 {Acidic Slime}
4 {Predator Ooze}
2 {Vorapede}
4 {Strangleroot Geist}
20 creatures
2 {Green Sun's Zenith}
4 {Lure}
3 {Naturalize}
3 {Deadly Allure}
4 {Rampant Growth}
16 other spells
Sideboard
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I don't like {predator ooze}, but I like when my opponent plays one because I just copy it and perma block it. My favorite is blocking with an {phantasmal image} that's coping the ooze.
That's what the Slimes are for, and Naturalize can always be replaced with Beast Within if clones are a problem.
Slimes and naturalize can't destroy indestructible. Coping {Predator ooze} makes the copy indestructible.
So it has a problem with one card in a given deck. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater here, most decks have silver bullets against them.
You could have your ooze pumped up higher by the time they get their copycat out, the copy won't have any counters on it, you can still kill the copy by targeting it with {Lure}, {Deadly Allure}, and yes even {Acidic Slime}. It may be indestructible, by that won't prevent it from being sac'ed when targeted.
Edit: forget the slime, can't touch creatures. Ooze beats slime.
Silly illusions :p {phyrexian metamorph} is better :)
Two cards... ;)
As Jester said, copy effects don't hurt this deck very much. Use Phantasmal Image and I can kill it 7 ways (10 if I sideboard in Beast Within). Metamorph is harder to deal with but can be played around with Lure. Thrun was in the original draft of this deck but the prevalent copy effects in the meta make him suboptimal compared to my other dudes.
I've got a dek sorta like this. It's posted under "deadly trees and sap" (standard page 5)
I've found running four of the ooze can be kinda slow. {Deadly allure} definitely helps.
Have you considered {increasing savagery}? Or for much cheaper {travel preparations}.
Also you may want to run some {swamp}s or {woodland cemetery}s if you want to cast those {deadly allure}s. :)
The birds of paradise are more than enough black to cast the Allures, and adding Swamps and Cemeteries makes my Dungroves weaker. Once I playtest the deck a little more I'll see if I can worm Savagery in there because space is tight.
Sub out the {Naturalize}s for {Bramblecrush}, {Acidic Slime}, or {Beast Within}.
Planeswalkers are problematic.
Which ones exactly? In standard the only ones I can think of that would be a problem are Koth, new Sorin or Liliana, I can easily push through a creature through Lures to knock one out in one shot which means the turn they come down they have to do something. Jace mills me for 10? Okay no big deal, Elspeth makes soldiers? Great, lure plus predator ooze is gonna get 3 counters bigger, Garruk makes a beast? (Or sacrifices himself to draw cards which kills him for me) more Ooze fodder, Venser can bounce an Oring to my Ooze which kinda sucks but not life threatening.
Meanwhile on the problematic side Koth accelerates mana fast meaning a red deck can drop a big flier that I can't block and must Lure, Sorin creatures tokens and emblems I can't interact with outside of Lures and Liliana makes me sacrifice my creatures or denies me cards.
Quote from: RevolverGunman on March 30, 2012, 07:37:05 PM
The birds of paradise are more than enough black to cast the Allures, and adding Swamps and Cemeteries makes my Dungroves weaker. Once I playtest the deck a little more I'll see if I can worm Savagery in there because space is tight.
I was informed that lands that can produce two mana count as both types of lands? So I don't think cemeteries would make them weaker. But I might be wrong.
Quote from: panda777 on April 02, 2012, 02:43:16 AM
Quote from: RevolverGunman on March 30, 2012, 07:37:05 PM
The birds of paradise are more than enough black to cast the Allures, and adding Swamps and Cemeteries makes my Dungroves weaker. Once I playtest the deck a little more I'll see if I can worm Savagery in there because space is tight.
I was informed that lands that can produce two mana count as both types of lands? So I don't think cemeteries would make them weaker. But I might be wrong.
You were misinformed. The only non-lands that count as both are the old school dualies ({Bayou}) and the Ravnica block "Shock" lands ({Overgrown Tomb}). No other lands count as two basic types.
Edit: (That's why they are worth 💎💰)
Quote from: RevolverGunman on March 31, 2012, 12:33:44 AM
Which ones exactly? In standard the only ones I can think of that would be a problem are Koth, new Sorin or Liliana, I can easily push through a creature through Lures to knock one out in one shot which means the turn they come down they have to do something. Jace mills me for 10? Okay no big deal, Elspeth makes soldiers? Great, lure plus predator ooze is gonna get 3 counters bigger, Garruk makes a beast? (Or sacrifices himself to draw cards which kills him for me) more Ooze fodder, Venser can bounce an Oring to my Ooze which kinda sucks but not life threatening.
Meanwhile on the problematic side Koth accelerates mana fast meaning a red deck can drop a big flier that I can't block and must Lure, Sorin creatures tokens and emblems I can't interact with outside of Lures and Liliana makes me sacrifice my creatures or denies me cards.
{Karn liberated} will eat all of your oozes
My meta has them. It makes me a frowny faced lad.
Oh yeah forgot about him, my meta consists of mostly aggro and midrange stuff and games usually end before the turn 7 mark where Karn would land.
Mana ramps can have him out by turn 3. But knowing your meta is best
No ramp in my meta that runs him, we got U/W Geist, U/W Humans, WRR, some rogue deck (toss up between Turbofog and Burning Vengeance) and mono green stompy.
Damn I'd love to be there. My meta is all stolen deck lists from the pro tours. Grixis control and Kessig wolf run and the like
Quote from: Greg54js on March 30, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
Silly illusions :p {phyrexian metamorph} is better :)
4 mana or 3 mana 2 life vs 2 mana I'll take the image over metamorph, but they both are great cards
Quote from: Leevai420 on April 02, 2012, 12:05:46 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on March 30, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
Silly illusions :p {phyrexian metamorph} is better :)
4 mana or 3 mana 2 life vs 2 mana I'll take the image over metamorph, but they both are great cards
Both are great, but one dies to a sideways glance. {Phantasmal Image} is great for copying hexproof dudes, though.
Actually I prefer Image as a creature styled Doom Blade for legendary creatures. Only way you can deal with Thrun.