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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Tetsomori on March 29, 2012, 08:46:49 PM

Title: First strike
Post by: Tetsomori on March 29, 2012, 08:46:49 PM
Does first strike damage go on the stack still?
Title: Re: First strike
Post by: BlackJester on March 29, 2012, 09:02:49 PM
Quote from: Tetsomori on March 29, 2012, 08:46:49 PM
Does first strike damage go on the stack still?
Not really sure what you mean, but here:

510.1. First, the active player announces how each attacking creature assigns its combat damage, then the defending player announces how each blocking creature assigns its combat damage. This turn-based action doesn't use the stack. A player assigns a creature's combat damage according to the following rules:
Title: Re: First strike
Post by: Tetsomori on March 29, 2012, 10:06:41 PM
A guy i played yesterday told me first strike still uses the stack. He attacked with a 3/2 first strike i blocked with a 4/4 he {alter reap} first dmg on stack
Title: Re: First strike
Post by: BadLuckIrish on March 29, 2012, 10:24:12 PM
He could reap it after declare blockers but if he does no combat damage will be dealt. Noone has prioty during damage being dealt.
Title: Re: First strike
Post by: BlackJester on March 29, 2012, 10:56:10 PM
To be clear, combat damage no longer uses the stack. However, after first strike damage has been dealt, triggers go on the stack and player get a chance for fast effects before the second combat step. So his terminology is wrong, but he can still deal 3 damage in the first combat step and then {Altar's Reap} before the second combat step.
Title: Re: First strike
Post by: BadLuckIrish on March 29, 2012, 11:37:21 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on March 29, 2012, 10:56:10 PM
To be clear, combat damage no longer uses the stack. However, after first strike damage has been dealt, triggers go on the stack and player get a chance for fast effects before the second combat step. So his terminology is wrong, but he can still deal 3 damage in the first combat step and then {Altar's Reap} before the second combat step.
But only if a trigger went off?
Title: Re: First strike
Post by: BlackJester on March 30, 2012, 12:18:34 AM
No, it'll happen anyway.