3 player game. Opponent takes my whip of Erebos.
If I lose the game and remove {Whip of Erebos} from my opponent's side of the field.
(Since I own it)
He returns an Abherration to his side of the field then kills me with it.
Would his {Consuming Abherration} get removed from the game at the end step?
Quote from: Destore117 on February 19, 2014, 08:41:17 AM
3 player game. Opponent takes my whip of Erebos.
If I lose the game and remove {Whip of Erebos} from my opponent's side of the field.
(Since I own it)
He returns an Abherration to his side of the field then kills me with it.
Would his {Consuming Abherration} get removed from the game at the end step?
okay, to add a bit of clarity, before you died he activated the whip's ability to bring back {Consuming Aberration}?
If that is the case, then yes. Once the whip's ability resolves, the full ability will go into effect. Removal of the whip itself will not affect the already resolved ability.
RESOLVED
Thanks. So turns out my friend might not have won!
Scandalous!
Realized I was missing a rules post!
112.8.: The controller of an activated ability on the stack is the player who activated it.
So since you weren't in control of the activated ability, your losing the game would have no effect on the ability.
The activation of the whip was controlled by player 2, not the owner of the whip, player 1. Anything controlled or owned by player 1 is removed from the game when state bases effects are checked and he loses the game but the whip effect controlled by the still active player 2 stays on the stack.
Quote from: Testset on February 19, 2014, 09:37:01 PM
Quote from: Stolen711 on February 19, 2014, 09:08:02 PM
The activation of the whip was controlled by player 2, not the owner of the whip, player 1. Anything controlled or owned by player 1 is removed from the game when state bases effects are checked and he loses the game but the whip effect controlled by the still active player 2 stays on the stack.
Correct that Player 2 was the controller of the activated ability, so it will not be affected by Player 1 leaving the game.
Technically, however, a delayed trigger is not "on the Stack" until the trigger condition is met (in this case, at the beginning of the next end step). Important distinction, as the stack must be empty to move to the next step, cast creatures, play lands, etc.
yes thank you for pointing that out. I should have mentioned 😃
Yes you were correct in all of that that's how the game happened to go. He still would've one either way. Had 40 life and a Chalice of death vs opponent with 7 life.
BUT ANYWAYS thank you all for clearing that up!
I PLAY EDH. AND I ACTUALLY REALISED THAT YOU COULD CONCEIT IN RESPONSE TO SOMEONE'S SPELL! Lol!!!