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Title: First time EDH (Sisay)
Post by: mtdewaddict on February 17, 2014, 03:03:06 PM

First time EDH (Sisay)

100 cards, 0 sideboard


1 {Pendelhaven}
1 {Gemstone Caverns}
1 {Kor Haven}
1 {Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx}
1 {Llanowar Reborn}
1 {Cavern of Souls}
1 {Vivid Grove}
1 {Gavony Township}
1 {Selesnya Sanctuary}
1 {Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers}
1 {Yavimaya Hollow}
5 {Forest}
1 {Mikokoro, Center of the Sea}
1 {Eiganjo Castle}
1 {Krosan Verge}
1 {Tranquil Thicket}
1 {Opal Palace}
1 {Rupture Spire}
1 {Flagstones of Trokair}
1 {Gods' Eye, Gate to the Reikai}
1 {Sunpetal Grove}
8 {Plains}
1 {Emeria, the Sky Ruin}
1 {Command Tower}
1 {Khalni Garden}
1 {Ghost Quarter}
1 {Miren, the Moaning Well}

38 lands


1 {Avacyn, Angel of Hope}
1 {Angel of Jubilation}
1 {Dosan the Falling Leaf}
1 {Eight-and-a-Half-Tails}
1 {Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger}
1 {Glissa Sunseeker}
1 {Kamahl, Fist of Krosa}
1 {Sigarda, Host of Herons}
1 {Mesa Enchantress}
1 {Melira, Sylvok Outcast}
1 {Elvish Piper}
1 {Gaddock Teeg}
1 {Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendant}
1 {Crovax, Ascendant Hero}
1 {Seedborn Muse}
1 {Major Teroh}
1 {Reki, the History of Kamigawa}
1 {Hokori, Dust Drinker}
1 {Mangara of Corondor}
1 {Fauna Shaman}
1 {Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite}
1 {Karametra, God of Harvests}
1 {Budoka Gardener}
1 {Linvala, Keeper of Silence}
1 {Captain Sisay}
1 {Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker}
1 {Tolsimir Wolfblood}
1 {Mageta the Lion}

28 creatures


1 {Mirari's Wake}
1 {Cream of the Crop}
1 {Sol Ring}
1 {Compost}
1 {Shield of Kaldra}
1 {Divine Sacrament}
1 {Aura Shards}
1 {Ancestral Mask}
1 {Spear of Heliod}
1 {Serenity}
1 {Mana Reflection}
1 {Ghostly Prison}
1 {Heroes' Podium}
1 {Tempt with Discovery}
1 {Sword of Kaldra}
1 {Caged Sun}
1 {Honor of the Pure}
1 {Gaea's Anthem}
1 {Abundance}
1 {Bow of Nylea}
1 {Mirri's Guile}
1 {Shell of the Last Kappa}
1 {Enchantress's Presence}
1 {Akroma's Memorial}
1 {Primal Surge}
1 {Helm of Kaldra}
1 {Day of Destiny}
1 {Selesnya Cluestone}
1 {Glorious Anthem}
1 {Crusade}
1 {Mind's Eye}
1 {Living Plane}
1 {Ethereal Armor}
1 {Hunting Grounds}

34 other spells


Sideboard

Notes:

Title: Re: First time EDH (Sisay)
Post by: mtdewaddict on February 17, 2014, 03:04:55 PM
This is my first self made commander deck. Any advice would be great!
Title: Re: First time EDH (Sisay)
Post by: AdamS on February 17, 2014, 03:21:58 PM
 {Amulet of Vigor} for Karametra
Title: Re: First time EDH (Sisay)
Post by: mtdewaddict on February 17, 2014, 03:35:03 PM
I had considered it but ultimately decided against {Amulet of Vigor} since I can tutor for Karametra but not amulet. The odds that I'd top deck it early enough for it to be useful are too low for my tastes.
Title: Re: First time EDH (Sisay)
Post by: FustyDavorite on February 17, 2014, 03:53:01 PM
Couple of things I noticed off the bat:
- look into some strong field wipes.  {Austere Command} is a perfect example. It's very flexible and easily works into your favor and can easily change the tide of the game. Maybe  {Wrath of God} or  {Terminus} also. Thankfully white is very strong in this suit.
- look at some of those lower drop cards. Things like  {Crusade} and others that just give +1/+1 are wasting a card slot for something that could have a lasting affect on board state late into the game. Keep in mind that not a lot of people care to do much with early game in EDH beyond accelerate.
And a side note: that  {Compost} in there could be a great sideboard, but in main it is wasted. If you aren't playing someone with black it's useless. Look into maybe replacing it with a  {Fecundity} or some good artifact draw like  {Staff of Nin} or  {Howling Mine}.
But also let me say this, this is a strong build. Sissy has got a lot to work with, and I can see this being a big threat pretty early. Nice.
Title: Re: First time EDH (Sisay)
Post by: mtdewaddict on February 17, 2014, 04:39:18 PM
I want to put board wipes in but I'm reluctant since the more instants/sorceries I have, the less effective {Primal Surge} will be. Right now I'm solely relying on {Mageta the Lion} for wipes, but the initial mana cost is steep. {Crusade} and the like are prime discard targets for this on their own, and the sudden boost they can give via {Primal Surge} makes me think they're worth being there (suddenly my creatures are all +10/+10). Do you think it's more beneficial to have sorcery clears and risk ending Primal Surge too soon?

And as for {Compost}, I agree with you. I typically play with 3-4 others though, and usually at least two of them run black. Otherwise, it can be discard fodder for Mageta.
Title: Re: First time EDH (Sisay)
Post by: FustyDavorite on February 17, 2014, 05:35:16 PM
Ah alright. Forming to your local group makes sense with  {Compost} then.
As for primal surge, let me give you an outside opinion on that:
Yes it's a great card, loads up your field real quickly, although is very risky because it does cost 10. But if it goes off well, it can win you the game. But keep this in mind: it's 1 out of 100 cards, so you can't justify that your entire deck is built for the soul purpose of it being successful, unless of course it's your commander. So I see where you are going with it being extremely benificial to your entire deck, but it could be a possibility that it is better to run the deck with out it? It's not always accessible, it's not foolproof, and it's much too risky to be forming a deck around a card so inconsistent. Rather you could take it out and enhance the deck itself for a more consistently powerful build. I did a similar thing with my  {Sydri, Galvanic Genius} deck (which is threaded on here ;) under Esper) with the card  {Mycosynth Lattice}, which almost entirely ensures I win game. But then again, it's only one card, so your deck still has to be successful without it.
Title: Re: First time EDH (Sisay)
Post by: FustyDavorite on February 17, 2014, 05:38:33 PM
Of course, these are just things to consider when reaching a final build. Especially with a first, dedicated EDH deck. It takes some time, and multiple drafts are going to be made. So food for thought on that.
Title: Re: First time EDH (Sisay)
Post by: imthelolrus on February 18, 2014, 08:22:16 AM
Ah sweet! My fiancé and I are working on a Sisay deck :)
{Commander Eesha} 
{Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary}
{Lieutenant Kirtar}
Title: Re: First time EDH (Sisay)
Post by: mtdewaddict on February 18, 2014, 02:32:27 PM
Thanks Fusty! I took your advice and switched the +1/+1 types out with removal and it playtested much better! An indestructible {Nevinyrral's Disk} or  {Magus of the Disk} is a scary sight!

I had a lot of trouble with voltron decks in my precious playtests, but the addition of just five spot removals like {Crib Swap}, {Condemn}, and {Oblation} really helped.

Thanks a ton for the advice!
Title: Re: First time EDH (Sisay)
Post by: FustyDavorite on February 18, 2014, 02:48:06 PM
Quote from: mtdewaddict on February 18, 2014, 02:32:27 PM
Thanks Fusty! I took your advice and switched the +1/+1 types out with removal and it playtested much better! An indestructible {Nevinyrral's Disk} or  {Magus of the Disk} is a scary sight!

I had a lot of trouble with voltron decks in my precious playtests, but the addition of just five spot removals like {Crib Swap}, {Condemn}, and {Oblation} really helped.

Thanks a ton for the advice!
anytime man! Happy playtesting! Spot removal is the best haha
Title: Re: First time EDH (Sisay)
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on February 18, 2014, 09:31:12 PM
I don't know what the commander is....
Title: Re: First time EDH (Sisay)
Post by: imthelolrus on February 18, 2014, 10:11:22 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on February 18, 2014, 09:31:12 PM
I don't know what the commander is....
{Captain Sisay} 😍