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Title: Hexproof/shroud vs global?
Post by: ibtrickey on February 16, 2014, 03:54:09 PM
Does  {Golgari Charm} defeat  {Invisible Stalker}??
Title: Re: Golgari charm
Post by: ibtrickey on February 16, 2014, 08:02:56 PM
What about a board whipe??
Title: Re: Golgari charm
Post by: DylanW18 on February 16, 2014, 08:06:35 PM
Quote from: Ibtrickey on February 16, 2014, 08:02:56 PM
What about a board whipe??


Same thing. Board wipes such as {Wrath of God} are global, and hexproof does not protect from that
Title: Re: Golgari charm
Post by: ibtrickey on February 16, 2014, 08:09:54 PM
But how is it not targeting the hexproof creatures? And shroud creatures?
Title: Re: Golgari charm
Post by: Gorzo on February 16, 2014, 08:13:01 PM
Quite simply, it doesn't have the word target in the text. That's it. Hexproof and shroud only stop the word "target."
Title: Re: Hexproof/shroud vs global?
Post by: Gorzo on February 16, 2014, 08:15:56 PM
Think of it this way:

A creature with hexproof or shroud have a protective shield around them that deflects projectiles. A {Searing Spear} would bounce right off. But if the entire world is sent into {Damnation}, or a {Novablast Wurm} explodes the sun, it doesn't matter what kind of shield you have. You're gone.
Title: Re: Hexproof/shroud vs global?
Post by: abstractApathist on February 16, 2014, 08:18:51 PM
Relevant Ruling:

114.9a (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=114.9a): Just because an object or player is being affected by a spell or ability doesn't make that object or player a target of that spell or ability. Unless that object or player is identified by the word "target" in the text of that spell or ability, or the rule for that keyword ability, it's not a target.
Title: Re: Hexproof/shroud vs global?
Post by: ibtrickey on February 16, 2014, 08:23:34 PM
Okay, thank you guys:( it just completely destroyed my deck
Title: Re: Hexproof/shroud vs global?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on February 16, 2014, 08:23:48 PM
I just saw the foil price of Damnation... I just picked one up at a garage sale for three dollars along with twenty other pounds of cards
Title: Re: Hexproof/shroud vs global?
Post by: DylanW18 on February 16, 2014, 08:25:15 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on February 16, 2014, 08:23:48 PM
I just saw the foil price of Damnation... I just picked one up at a garage sale for three dollars along with twenty other pounds of cards


Awesome! But not the place to post this ;)
Title: Re: Hexproof/shroud vs global?
Post by: Ekann1 on February 16, 2014, 08:25:54 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on February 16, 2014, 08:23:48 PM
I just saw the foil price of Damnation... I just picked one up at a garage sale for three dollars along with twenty other pounds of cards

Lucky. I've always wanted to find something like that :P