So I was playing EDH, and I had a Norn out, and my opponent casts a Banisher Priest. Does his priest have time to trigger and target the Born before it dies or not?
{Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite}
{Banisher Priest}
Quote from: Kurama on February 11, 2014, 07:53:52 PM
So I was playing EDH, and I had a Norn out, and my opponent casts a Banisher Priest. Does his priest have time to trigger and target the Born before it dies or not?
{Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite}
{Banisher Priest}
No. State based actions are checked before the priest can trigger, and the priest would die. let me check some rulings.
116.5. Each time a player would get priority, the game first performs all applicable state-based actions as a single event (see rule 704, "State-Based Actions"), then repeats this process until no state-based actions are performed. Then triggered abilities are put on the stack (see rule 603, "Handling Triggered Abilities"). These steps repeat in order until no further state-based actions are performed and no abilities trigger. Then the player who would have received priority does so.
Players have to get priority for the priest's ETB trigger to happen. The priest would die first when state based actions are checked and its toughness is 0.
Edit: well, combine this with abstractApathist's ruling and we have a full set of rulings :)
The priest will trigger as soon as it hits the battlefield, but it will be killed as a state-based action as soon as its trigger goes on the stack, meaning it will fizzle.
7/1/2013 If Banisher Priest leaves the battlefield before its enters-the-battlefield ability resolves, the target creature won't be exiled.
Quote from: abstractApathist on February 11, 2014, 07:58:24 PM
The priest will trigger as soon as it hits the battlefield, but it will be killed as a state-based action as soon as its trigger goes on the stack, meaning it will fizzle.
7/1/2013 If Banisher Priest leaves the battlefield before its enters-the-battlefield ability resolves, the target creature won't be exiled.
OK, this is basically what I was wondering, because I know you could have a combo with {Cloud shift} and {Fiend Hunter}
Thats why they fixed the wording away from {oblivion ring} with seperate triggers and toward "leaves" like {colossal whale} and {banisher priest}.