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Title: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: Necromancerman on February 10, 2014, 02:50:59 PM
So I was on the bus today finalizing a trade with a kid when another kid jumped seats to us and started talking, he pulled out a long box of cards and I started looking through. There was much until I found them, three {demonic tutors}. Now this kid clearly did not know what they are worth, and I need three for a legacy deck I'm putting together. But before anything could be figured out we got to school. Now here is the question, do I inform him of what they're worth, or do I take him for all he's got?
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: Necromancerman on February 10, 2014, 03:02:04 PM
Quote from: Taysby on February 10, 2014, 02:57:39 PM
It's fine if you give him something he wants for it.  I'm not going to go back and use someone for trading with me (yugioh) with me giving my blue eyes for like 25 cents of cards because I wanted those cards. Just because the current market value is x doesn't make trading it for x-y wrong as long as he's happy with the trade.
That is definelty true
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: Birdbrain on February 10, 2014, 03:27:06 PM
Quote from: Necromancerman on February 10, 2014, 02:50:59 PM
So I was on the bus today finalizing a trade with a kid when another kid jumped seats to us and started talking, he pulled out a long box of cards and I started looking through. There was much until I found them, three {demonic tutors}. Now this kid clearly did not know what they are worth, and I need three for a legacy deck I'm putting together. But before anything could be figured out we got to school. Now here is the question, do I inform him of what they're worth, or do I take him for all he's got?
i would offer something close to what they were worth. It's stealing if you do otherwise. Don't look desperate though, as it could make him want to trade up. But I would give him something in the ballpark (like within 5$ of the total of all three) for them
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: Necromancerman on February 10, 2014, 03:28:47 PM
I will have to figure out what gen they're from
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 10, 2014, 03:31:17 PM
White border is usually revised

Don't rip him off. It's a dick move, for all you know it's his dads collection and if a dad finds out about bad trades on school busses, people get called and then magic is banned from local schools.
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 10, 2014, 03:32:31 PM
Like seriously : when I was in elementary and middle school POGs and magic were banned due to kids trAding/wagering constantly and unhappiness coming from that. They just banned it instead of dealing with kids BS.
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: Necromancerman on February 10, 2014, 03:33:27 PM
Yah I remember that, I sold a kid a mew Ex for $20 In elementary school and they made me trade bsck
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: Birdbrain on February 10, 2014, 03:34:35 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 10, 2014, 03:32:31 PM
Like seriously : when I was in elementary and middle school POGs and magic were banned due to kids trAding/wagering constantly and unhappiness coming from that. They just banned it instead of dealing with kids BS.
same happened at my school, only also with gameboys because of game "borrowing" and sellin shenanagins
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: Necromancerman on February 10, 2014, 03:37:46 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 10, 2014, 03:31:17 PM
White border is usually revised

Don't rip him off. It's a dick move, for all you know it's his dads collection and if a dad finds out about bad trades on school busses, people get called and then magic is banned from local schools.
They're black border
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: Birdbrain on February 10, 2014, 03:40:59 PM
Quote from: Necromancerman on February 10, 2014, 03:37:46 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 10, 2014, 03:31:17 PM
White border is usually revised

Don't rip him off. It's a dick move, for all you know it's his dads collection and if a dad finds out about bad trades on school busses, people get called and then magic is banned from local schools.
They're black border
sharp edges or curvy like nowadays
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 10, 2014, 03:42:08 PM
If square corners they are just collectors edition

Black border would either be the duel deck which is rare (newer art) otherwise beta or alpha. If things are beta/alpha you better bet that whosever collection that really belongs to will come back for it.

This is why if you save nice things for your kids, wait till they are 35
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: Birdbrain on February 10, 2014, 03:45:37 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 10, 2014, 03:42:08 PM
If square corners they are just collectors edition

Black border would either be the duel deck which is rare (newer art) otherwise beta or alpha. If things are beta/alpha you better bet that whosever collection that really belongs to will come back for it.

This is why if you save nice things for your kids, wait till they are 35
i thought alpha and beta had sharper corners. I know for a fact there different somehow
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: Necromancerman on February 10, 2014, 03:45:58 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 10, 2014, 03:42:08 PM
If square corners they are just collectors edition

Black border would either be the duel deck which is rare (newer art) otherwise beta or alpha. If things are beta/alpha you better bet that whosever collection that really belongs to will come back for it.

This is why if you save nice things for your kids, wait till they are 35
It has old art so
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: MuggyWuggy on February 10, 2014, 03:52:15 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 10, 2014, 03:45:37 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 10, 2014, 03:42:08 PM
If square corners they are just collectors edition

Black border would either be the duel deck which is rare (newer art) otherwise beta or alpha. If things are beta/alpha you better bet that whosever collection that really belongs to will come back for it.

This is why if you save nice things for your kids, wait till they are 35
i thought alpha and beta had sharper corners. I know for a fact there different somehow
They do but I believe the CE versions are just straight cut like baseball cards, believe alpha and beta still had some curvature

I just highly doubt some kid is rolling around with 3 alpha or beta demonic tutors and has no idea the value of them or significance. Whoever would have saved those for 20 years wouldnt just blindly give them to a child to take to school with.
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: Necromancerman on February 10, 2014, 03:53:45 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 10, 2014, 03:52:15 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 10, 2014, 03:45:37 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 10, 2014, 03:42:08 PM
If square corners they are just collectors edition

Black border would either be the duel deck which is rare (newer art) otherwise beta or alpha. If things are beta/alpha you better bet that whosever collection that really belongs to will come back for it.

This is why if you save nice things for your kids, wait till they are 35
i thought alpha and beta had sharper corners. I know for a fact there different somehow
They do but I believe the CE versions are just straight cut like baseball cards, believe alpha and beta still had some curvature

I just highly doubt some kid is rolling around with 3 alpha or beta demonic tutors and has no idea the value of them or significance. Whoever would have saved those for 20 years wouldnt just blindly give them to a child to take to school with.
Yah ill have to acquire them then take a pic
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: Wingnut on February 10, 2014, 06:02:33 PM
Man be honest and make sure the trade is fair. Then you don't have to worry about it, you have no worries.
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: Apathy Reactor on February 10, 2014, 06:07:24 PM
Give him a fair price, he will probably think it's a steal, but as long as the trade is of close value and he is happy with it, go for it. (And you should probably ask him if he remembers where he got them, to be sure they aren't the possession of a sibling or parent)
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: Necromancerman on February 10, 2014, 06:20:25 PM
Ill try
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: ApexPredator on February 10, 2014, 06:34:50 PM
If you have to ask then its generally morally wrong.
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: ApexPredator on February 10, 2014, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on February 10, 2014, 06:38:46 PM
Quote from: NightWolf on February 10, 2014, 06:34:50 PM
If you have to ask then its generally morally wrong.

*You came in like a (moral and ethical) wrecking ball*
Lmao!!!  +1 good sir
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: Raiderrob on February 11, 2014, 07:25:18 AM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 10, 2014, 03:52:15 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 10, 2014, 03:45:37 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 10, 2014, 03:42:08 PM
If square corners they are just collectors edition

Black border would either be the duel deck which is rare (newer art) otherwise beta or alpha. If things are beta/alpha you better bet that whosever collection that really belongs to will come back for it.

This is why if you save nice things for your kids, wait till they are 35
i thought alpha and beta had sharper corners. I know for a fact there different somehow
They do but I believe the CE versions are just straight cut like baseball cards, believe alpha and beta still had some curvature

I just highly doubt some kid is rolling around with 3 alpha or beta demonic tutors and has no idea the value of them or significance. Whoever would have saved those for 20 years wouldnt just blindly give them to a child to take to school with.
CE looks the same in the front, but has the regular magic back with a gold border around it. Here's a pic.
http://twitter.com/raiderrob071/status/433214569444421632/photo/1

My advice is tell him what he has, and what they are worth.
Title: Re: A matter of right and wrong
Post by: Necromancerman on February 11, 2014, 11:21:39 AM
I checked this morning they're actually white border