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Title: Inspired
Post by: DirtyMustachio on February 10, 2014, 10:16:05 AM
So using {gridlock} I learned I was able to abuse heroic triggers by tapping a tapped creature multiple times just to get the effect multiple times.

I was wondering if the opposite would work, I know you can untap untapped creatures, but does the wording of inspired let me receive that ability again and again like with things like {hidden strings} on {pain seer}

And do they have to be tapped to get the ability or just the target of untap abilities ?
Title: Re: Inspired
Post by: Presentjackson on February 10, 2014, 11:04:17 AM
Sweet question bro, i have similar questions about inspired, but i'd much rather know the answer to this one. Ruling please!
Title: Re: Inspired
Post by: Presentjackson on February 10, 2014, 11:27:20 AM
Thats why whenever you steal a creature you gotta try to destroy it (sac it)

So when you steal a creature with inspire do you get the inspried ability?
Title: Re: Inspired
Post by: DirtyMustachio on February 10, 2014, 11:43:24 AM
I dunno I guess it depends on if the ruling but it doesn't say the owner or anything so id guess whoever has control of it at the time it untaps and triggers.

But it's good news that you can untap untapped creatures with inspired and get the ability.

Now people can think of other things than oh but how do I tap my guys without attacking herp derp
Title: Re: Inspired
Post by: particle on February 10, 2014, 12:14:39 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on February 10, 2014, 11:23:12 AM
I had a judge say that {portent of betrayal} triggers an inspired creature even if it was just summoned and still has summoning sickness

is this true? so even if a creature is untapped, and you target it with an untap spell, it will trigger inspired? seems op.
Title: Re: Inspired
Post by: Avnger345 on February 10, 2014, 12:14:59 PM
You gain control of it first, then untap it. Inspire triggers
Title: Re: Inspired
Post by: particle on February 10, 2014, 12:15:58 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on February 10, 2014, 12:14:59 PM
You gain control of it first, then untap it. Inspire triggers

but what if it was just summoned and wasnt tapped like the example above?
Title: Re: Inspired
Post by: Avnger345 on February 10, 2014, 12:16:58 PM
I think that the creature has to be tapped first to trigger inspire..if it's already untapped, your not untapping it.
Title: Re: Inspired
Post by: DirtyMustachio on February 10, 2014, 12:18:07 PM
This is to good to not know for sure.

I hope we get an official ruling soon
Title: Re: Inspired
Post by: particle on February 10, 2014, 12:19:06 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on February 10, 2014, 12:18:07 PM
This is to good to not know for sure.

I hope we get an official ruling soon

me too.  {Testset}, you awake?
Title: Re: Inspired
Post by: DirtyMustachio on February 10, 2014, 12:24:08 PM
This is all I've found so far

A creature's inspired ability triggers every time the creature becomes untapped. That's normally at the start of your turn, but an inspired ability triggers no matter how or when the creature untaps. The simplest way to get these creatures tapped is to attack with them, but this set also contains many cards that let you tap your creatures in other ways.

If multiple inspired abilities you control go on the stack at the same time, you get to decide in what order to put them on the stack. (The last one you add to the stack will resolve first, as usual.) Inspired abilities that trigger during the untap step are all put onto the stack as the upkeep step begins, at the same time as "at the beginning of your upkeep" triggers. You put your inspired triggers and upkeep triggers on the stack all at once, in any order you wish.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/bornofthegodsmechanics
Title: Re: Inspired
Post by: LordJanova on February 10, 2014, 12:36:33 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on February 10, 2014, 12:24:08 PM
becomes untapped
Based on that wording alone I say it has to be tapped first in order for it to work. Untapping it when it's already untapped just keeps it the same, in order for it to BECOME untapped it has to be in a state other than untapped and then be untapped, the only other state it can be  in in this situation is tapped. So I'd have to say no, untapping an already untapped creature with inspired doesn't trigger its ability. It has to change orientation in order to trigger.
Title: Re: Inspired
Post by: DirtyMustachio on February 10, 2014, 12:48:19 PM
I'm inclined to agree with you lord J no matter how bad I want to abuse the card

Still I wonder why the judge ruled the inspired went off in the above scenario llama mentioned since it didn't become untapped
Title: Re: Inspired
Post by: DirtyMustachio on February 10, 2014, 12:51:06 PM
I'll check gatherer
Title: Re: Inspired
Post by: DirtyMustachio on February 10, 2014, 12:57:09 PM
{goblin medics}

{grimoire thief}

{hallowsage} the first pseudoinspired creature lol

^and with this, the verdict is in!
Title: Re: Inspired
Post by: DirtyMustachio on February 10, 2014, 03:34:58 PM
All kinds of disappointments today.

Based on second hand discussions.

I guess don't trust everything people say in their deck ideas =/
Title: Re: Inspired
Post by: DirtyMustachio on February 10, 2014, 05:25:18 PM
Dude your cool, I appreciate real answers and this definitely is a need to know answer!

I'll come back with some other evil plans
Muahahhaaha