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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: VQMracing on February 06, 2014, 08:09:29 PM

Title: Arbiter ability
Post by: VQMracing on February 06, 2014, 08:09:29 PM
Hey guys, I had a question real quick. I untapped the {arbiter of the idea} and was able to play an {Ætherling} can I swing during my next combat phase with the Ætherling or is it still under summoning sickness?
Title: Re: Arbiter ability
Post by: abstractApathist on February 06, 2014, 08:20:35 PM
A creature's having summoning sickness is related to when it came onto the battlefield, not how. You cannot attack with your {Ætherling} yet.

302.6. (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=302.6.): A creature's activated ability with the tap symbol or the untap symbol in its activation cost can't be activated unless the creature has been under its controller's control continuously since his or her most recent turn began. A creature can't attack unless it has been under its controller's control continuously since his or her most recent turn began. This rule is informally called the "summoning sickness" rule.
Title: Re: Arbiter ability
Post by: VQMracing on February 06, 2014, 08:21:41 PM
Sounds good! I didn't think so but I just wanted to make sure. Thank you!
Title: Re: Arbiter ability
Post by: Stolen711 on February 06, 2014, 10:22:31 PM
If you blink the ætherling in this instance will it still be an enchantment when it comes back?
Title: Re: Arbiter ability
Post by: Destore117 on February 07, 2014, 01:34:03 AM
You should start your own thread for your own question just for furure reference.
however
No. The counter will fall off when that card leaves the battlefield. As it is a new object and has no relation to its previous self which entered with Arbiter's ability.
For safety's sake.
I would wait for a ruling just to be positive.
Title: Re: Arbiter ability
Post by: Anoobass on February 07, 2014, 03:54:37 AM
Just because I'm curious:
Untap step, {Arbiter of the Ideal} untaps, ability goes on the stack.  Is the reason that the {Ætherling} has summoning sickness because: Any time something hits the stack during untap step it is held there until the upkeep (when players finally recieve priority) to resolve?

Trying to learn rules enough to be an actual judge so I can help my playgroup out.
Title: Re: Arbiter ability
Post by: abstractApathist on February 07, 2014, 06:50:51 AM
Quote from: Anoobass on February 07, 2014, 03:54:37 AM
Just because I'm curious:
Untap step, {Arbiter of the Ideal} untaps, ability goes on the stack.  Is the reason that the {Ætherling} has summoning sickness because: Any time something hits the stack during untap step it is held there until the upkeep (when players finally recieve priority) to resolve?

Trying to learn rules enough to be an actual judge so I can help my playgroup out.
While it is true that the ability does not resolve until you receive priority next (during your upkeep), the reason {Ætherling} has summoning sickness is that he hasn't been on the battlefield continuously since the turn started.
Title: Re: Arbiter ability
Post by: Anoobass on February 07, 2014, 09:53:16 AM
Which was my point, even though he was added to the stack pre upkeep.  The reason he wasn't there during upkeep is because he was held there until it was too late and he missed his chance to make it before summon sickness wears off.
Title: Re: Arbiter ability
Post by: Anoobass on February 07, 2014, 11:43:26 AM
Got you, my bad.