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Title: Enchantments, tokens and Stack.
Post by: RDJDenley on February 02, 2014, 08:47:15 AM
Firstly, can you enchant a creature with more than one of the same enchantment? Secondly, creature tokens... Are they used in the same way creatures can be used with other creature abilities (such as sacrifice)? And finally what the hell do people mean when they say something is 'stack', Or 'in stack'?!

Been playing for a month and absolutely loving every thrashing victory.
Title: Re: Enchantments, tokens and Stack.
Post by: DylanW18 on February 02, 2014, 09:00:09 AM
First question:

Yes, you may. The only reasons you couldn't is if it was Legendary


Second Question:

Yes, you may sacrifice a token. Anything that effects creatures effects tokens, unless the card says otherwise.

Third Question:

It's called The Stack. It's the order of operations for Magic, and along with "Priority" is easily the most confusing thing. I'll try to explain


The basic rule is that the last thing to be cast is the first to resolve. Example.

You cast spell A.
Your opponent in response casts spell B.
Spell B resolves.
Spell A resolves.


It's like that
Title: Re: Enchantments, tokens and Stack.
Post by: RDJDenley on February 02, 2014, 11:41:01 AM
Ohhhh okay, that makes a lot more sense now!

Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: Enchantments, tokens and Stack.
Post by: Quisequise on February 02, 2014, 11:55:56 AM
If you have a chance check out the FAQ topic in this section.
Title: Re: Enchantments, tokens and Stack.
Post by: RDJDenley on February 02, 2014, 11:56:53 AM
Just found it haha, thanks again!
Title: Re: Enchantments, tokens and Stack.
Post by: Kaworu, the Fifth Child on February 02, 2014, 01:57:29 PM
Taken from Keyeto.
Understanding how The Stack works is possibly the most important weapon in the arsenal of any Magic player. It's a pretty basic concept really: First in, Last out.
How Does The Stack Work?
A great way to explain this is the way Coffee Vampire explained it. I will post his analogy about how the stack works, and split second cards, as it seemed to help a lot of players understand how the stack works. Pancake time!

The stack is like a plate, and spells are pancakes. Casting a spell is like placing a pancake on the plate (stack). And eating a pancake is resolving a spell. BUT WAIT. There's a catch! You cannot eat a pancake if another one is on top of it. When you place a pancake on the stack, you let the other person get a chance to place one. Once no player has any more pancakes to place on the stack, it starts to get eaten FROM THE TOP DOWN! Here is a visualization:

So say the plate (stack) is empty. But I decide to cast Thought Scour. When I do this, I place one pancake (spell) on the stack. So the Thought Scour pancake is ready to be eaten (resolved). But oh no, before you eat your thought scour pancake, your buddy decides to cast a Think Twice pancake in response!

So now let's look at the plate (stack). On the bottom is your thought scour pancake. Sitting on top is the Think Twice pancake. Remember, the stack must be eaten (resolved) from the top down. No exceptions!

So Think Twice is eaten first! This means the my opponent draws a card. Once he does, my Thought Scour is the only pancake left on the stack. But wait a second...my opponent isn't done yet. He decides to place another pancake on the stack: Lightning Bolt

So now there are 2 pancakes again! This is because when there are 2 or more spells on the stack, you can let the first one resolve and then respond to the one that's left! Cool, huh?

So the lightning bolt pancake is eaten and I take 3. There is now once again, one pancake on the stack! My lovely thought scour. Now my opponent has no more responses, so I can eat it. Now I mill myself 2 and draw a card because my thought scour pancake was finally eaten (resolved)!

Now for split second cards. When a split second pancake is on the plate (stack), NO OTHER PANCAKES MAY BE PLACED ON THE PLATE!!! Think of split second cards as nasty pancakes that no other pancakes want to share the stack with. So if you cast a split second spell, NO PLAYERS may cast spells until the split second one resolves. This means it can't be countered, or responded to.