Keep in mind this is my first EDH deck, I'm probably missing some format staples and I don't really know what's normally needed. So it's probably going to be pretty bad ;)
(Updates: I think it's better now... :) )
I think this deck needs more late game type cards. I still have all the cards from the precon bant deck, so if there's anything people think I should put back in from that, I still have the cards. Please make your suggestions relatively budget friendly, I obviously would have original duals in there if I could ;)
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/derevi-edh-29-01-14-1/
Thanks!
Commander
{Derevi, Empyrial Tactician}
Creature (25)
1x {Acidic Slime}
1x {AEtherling}
1x {Azami, Lady of Scrolls}
1x {Birds of Paradise}
1x {Bane of Progress}
1x {Chameleon Colossus}
1x {Deadeye Navigator}
1x {Fiend Hunter}
1x {Grand Arbiter Augustin IV}
1x {Heliod, God of the Sun}
1x {Hokori, Dust Drinker}
1x {Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur}
1x {Karmic Guide}
1x {Kitchen Finks}
1x {Knight of the Reliquary}
1x {Lavinia of the Tenth}
1x {Mirror Entity}
1x {Mulldrifter}
1x {Palinchron}
1x {Prophet of Kruphix}
1x {Restoration Angel}
1x {Terastodon}
1x {Thragtusk}
1x {Venser, Shaper Savant}
1x {Winged Coatl}
Artifact (9)
1x {Birthing Pod}
1x {Chromatic Lantern}
1x {Gilded Lotus}
1x {Selesnya Signet}
1x {Sensei's Divining Top}
1x {Simic Signet}
1x {Sol Ring}
1x {Swiftfoot Boots}
1x {Thran Dynamo}
Sorcery (4)
1x {Green Sun's Zeith}
1x {Terminus}
1x {Time Warp}
1x {Wargate}
Enchantment (5)
1x {Bident of Thassa}
1x {Control Magic}
1x {Darksteel Mutation}
1x {Land Tax}
1x {Oblivion Ring}
Instant (15)
1x {Bant Charm}
1x {Brainstorm}
1x {Condemn}
1x {Counterspell}
1x {Cyclonic Rift}
1x {Disenchant}
1x {Fated Retribution}
1x {Krosan Grip}
1x {Path to Exile}
1x {Plasm Capture}
1x {Rapid Hybridization}
1x {Ray of Revelation}
1x {Rootborn Defenses}
1x {Selesnya Charm}
1x {Swords to Plowshares}
1x {Unexpectedly Absent}
Planeswalker (3)
1x {Garruk, Primal Hunter}
1x {Jace, the Mind Sculptor}
1x {Venser, the Sojourner}
Land (37)
1x {Azorius Guildgate}
1x {Command Tower}
1x {Evolving Wilds}
1x {Faerie Conclave}
5x {Forest}
1x {Gavony Township}
1x {Glacial Fortress}
1x {Graypelt Refuge}
1x {Hallowed Fountain}
1x {Hinterland Harbor}
5x {Island}
4x {Plains}
1x {Alchemist's Refuge}
1x {Saltcrusted Steppe}
1x {Seaside Citadel}
1x {Sejiri Refuge}
1x {Selesnya Guildgate}
1x {Simic Guildgate}
1x {Sunpetal Grove}
1x {Temple Garden}
1x {Temple of Enlightenment}
1x {Temple of Mystery}
1x {Temple of Plenty}
1x {Temple of the False God}
1x {Treetop Village}
1x {Windbrisk Heights}
anyone?
Maybe {Flickerwisp}?
This is actually pretty good for a first deck. A lot of EDH decks I see akip out on cheap removal and tempo cards so theycan add more big monsters. You seem to have some good cheap removal here. Some semi-cheap cards that would be good in here.
{Dryad Arbor}
{Green Sun's Zenith}
{Hokori, Dust Drinker}
{Birthing Pod} (SUPER good with derevi)
{Mana Vault} (people often think this is more expensive than it is, due to its similarities with {Mana Crypt}. However, it's 5 bucks at most!)
{Bloom Tender} (turn 2 bloom tender makes it so that you can cast derevi on turn 3, target bloom tender with derevi's ability and keeping priority, tap bloom tender for mana...thus gaining you 6 man on turn 3, and casting your general too!)
{Sylvan Library}
I would offer more suggestions, but a) I have to go eat and b) I need to look at your deck more, so I don't suggest things already there!
Quote from: DylanW18 on January 31, 2014, 07:45:10 PM
Maybe {Flickerwisp}?
If you look closely enough {flickerwisp} is already in there ;) thanks for the help though.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 31, 2014, 07:49:42 PM
This is actually pretty good for a first deck. A lot of EDH decks I see akip out on cheap removal and tempo cards so theycan add more big monsters. You seem to have some good cheap removal here. Some semi-cheap cards that would be good in here.
{Dryad Arbor}
{Green Sun's Zenith}
{Hokori, Dust Drinker}
{Birthing Pod} (SUPER good with derevi)
{Mana Vault} (people often think this is more expensive than it is, due to its similarities with {Mana Crypt}. However, it's 5 bucks at most!)
{Bloom Tender} (turn 2 bloom tender makes it so that you can cast derevi on turn 3, target bloom tender with derevi's ability and keeping priority, tap bloom tender for mana...thus gaining you 6 man on turn 3, and casting your general too!)
{Sylvan Library}
I would offer more suggestions, but a) I have to go eat and b) I need to look at your deck more, so I don't suggest things already there!
Awesome. I can easily put my FTV zenith in there. I'll keep an eye out for the rest of the stuff, thanks! :)
What are some weaker cards you would suggest cutting?
Quote from: DylanW18 on January 31, 2014, 07:45:10 PM
Maybe {Flickerwisp}?
I actually meant to take out for knight of the reliquary.. Lol
Quote from: DylanW18 on February 01, 2014, 12:03:07 AM
Quote from: DylanW18 on January 31, 2014, 07:45:10 PM
Maybe {Flickerwisp}?
I actually meant to take out for knight of the reliquary.. Lol
Oh. I see. Oops, my bad. Good idea, I'll probably do that :)
Always happy to help! As for weaker cards, I would never run any bounce lands in a deck, because of how far a {Strip Mine}d bounceland sets you back. If your turn 2 bounceland gets destroyed then your game is reset. I prefer guildgates over bounce lands.
Also, {Ovinize} doesn't do much. I see you have included {darksteel mutation}. This is a very good card, as it lasts more than just a turn. I think a fine replacement for ovinize is {Lignify}. It does exactly what you're looking for and lasts as long as it sticks.
Also, {Blue Sun's Zenith} is not an efficient way to draw cards. Imo the only decks that should run it are the ones that can make infinite mana. Even {Brainstorm} would be a good substitute for BSZ. It does far more for 1 mana than BSZ does for 4.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on February 01, 2014, 12:45:09 AM
Always happy to help! As for weaker cards, I would never run any bounce lands in a deck, because of how far a {Strip Mine}d bounceland sets you back. If your turn 2 bounceland gets destroyed then your game is reset. I prefer guildgates over bounce lands.
Also, {Ovinize} doesn't do much. I see you have included {darksteel mutation}. This is a very good card, as it lasts more than just a turn. I think a fine replacement for ovinize is {Lignify}. It does exactly what you're looking for and lasts as long as it sticks.
Also, {Blue Sun's Zenith} is not an efficient way to draw cards. Imo the only decks that should run it are the ones that can make infinite mana. Even {Brainstorm} would be a good substitute for BSZ. It does far more for 1 mana than BSZ does for 4.
Yeah, I probably should cut the bounce lands anyway. Ovinize was to kill something in combat and BSZ is slightly ok because I actually do have 1 infinite mana combo in this deck (I'll have more, and they'll be easier to get once I start having things like birthing pod)
Thanks for more suggestions.
Suggest cutting {Colossus of Akros} and {Blue Sun's Zenith}
for {Edric, Spymaster of Trest} or {Bident of Thassa} or {Coastal Piracy} ... The more of these the better, honestly don't underestimate the value of refilling your hand every single turn via combat.
Quote from: Arzair on February 01, 2014, 05:08:12 PM
Suggest cutting {Colossus of Akros} and {Blue Sun's Zenith}
for {Edric, Spymaster of Trest} or {Bident of Thassa} or {Coastal Piracy} ... The more of these the better, honestly don't underestimate the value of refilling your hand every single turn via combat.
Good ideas, i just had the colossus in there for randomness with all my artifact mana. Once I find some of those I'll put them in. thanks :)
what about {mystic snake} for this deck?
I don't think it's good enough. Counters should be 2 mana or less, and the 2/2 body isn't worth the extra 2 mana. A 4 mana counter should give you much for than that, like {Cryptic Command}, or {Rewind} even. Maybe in a different deck {Mystic Snake} could find a home, but not one as tempo-oriented as Derevi. The fact that the 2/2 you get has synergy with Derevi makes the snake a tempting card, but you should still be doing a lot more than that when spending so much for a simple counter.
Here's a good note: a card with a drawback for paying less for an effect is usually better than a card that gives you an extra effect because you pay more for the original effect. For instance, {Swan Song} is good because you get to pay just 1 mana to counter a spell, with a minor drawback which can easily be dealt with (blockable with your general). However {Mystic Snake} lets you counter a spell, while forcing you to pay 2 extra mana for something that will probably not be relevant.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on February 02, 2014, 06:14:05 PM
I don't think it's good enough. Counters should be 2 mana or less, and the 2/2 body isn't worth the extra 2 mana. A 4 mana counter should give you much for than that, like {Cryptic Command}, or {Rewind} even. Maybe in a different deck {Mystic Snake} could find a home, but not one as tempo-oriented as Derevi. The fact that the 2/2 you get has synergy with Derevi makes the snake a tempting card, but you should still be doing a lot more than that when spending so much for a simple counter.
Here's a good note: a card with a drawback for paying less for an effect is usually better than a card that gives you an extra effect because you pay more for the original effect. For instance, {Swan Song} is good because you get to pay just 1 mana to counter a spell, with a minor drawback which can easily be dealt with (blockable with your general). However {Mystic Snake} lets you counter a spell, while forcing you to pay 2 extra mana for something that will probably not be relevant.
I was just thinking {mystic snake} because of {deadeye navigator} awesomeness.
Changes:
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Cut {Azorius Chancery} for {Graypelt Refuge}
Cut {Flickerwisp} for {Knight of the Reliquary}
Cut BSZ for {Green Sun's Zenith}
I'll try to get an Edric and some other stuff, these changes are just things I have right now.
I just got a {Bident of Thassa}, so I cut {Colossus of Akros} for that.
Many many many updates have been added.
wow, Derevi is uncounterable from command zone using the ability right?
Correct :D it's an ability, not being cast. So I guess {Voidslime} could counter it. Which reminds me, I need to get one of those.
You do know that Derevi is banned in EDH as. a commander right?
Quote from: IntoFire on May 03, 2014, 01:08:12 AM
You do know that Derevi is banned in EDH as. a commander right?
sa 1v1 lang ata dre
Just checked:
Derevi, Empyrial Tactician is banned in the French 1v1 list.
Rightly so, in a competitive enviornment Derevi can only be stopped with equally broken forces, such as Zur or...well that's about it. However, in multiplayer there isn't need for such bannings because your goal isn't to knock 1 player out and win! Play Derevi to your heart's content. Build competitively, play casually is my moto. :)
Quote from: IntoFire on May 03, 2014, 01:08:12 AM
You do know that Derevi is banned in EDH as. a commander right?
Yes. I'm building oloro after this.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on May 03, 2014, 03:38:07 AM
Play Derevi to your heart's content. Build competitively, play casually is my moto. :)
Combo Animar may be able to stop derevi. Anyway, any suggestions about the actual deck?
{Cryptic Command}?
Quote from: IntoFire on May 03, 2014, 09:51:52 AM
{Cryptic Command}?
The price is a little insane now.... Maybe it will drop after all the big modern tournaments are over?
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 03, 2014, 10:32:09 AM
Quote from: IntoFire on May 03, 2014, 09:51:52 AM
{Cryptic Command}?
The price is a little insane now.... Maybe it will drop after all the big modern tournaments are over?
can I get a please?? What happened to the days where that beaut wasn't over 30?
Sure I'll get alotta hate for this but {stasis}. I turned mine into a stasis deck and I couldn't be happier, looked a long time for a perfect stasis style commander and derevi is a perfect fit. Have fun with it and enjoy derevi cause ur opponents won't =)
Oooh! Capsize buyback combo! Build up your mana base and just keep abusing {Capsize}!
{derevi empirical tactician}+{serras blessing}+{stasis}=pain and agony for your opponents. Hardest part about a {stasis} is getting your lock. {capsize} {sun titan} or a {auramancer}+{deadeye navigator} are excellent ways to secure this. If tutors are to expensive then {stoic angel}, {winter orb} and {static orb} are excellent ways to accomplish the same goal
Great ideas :) thanks
Call the deck : " The Empyrial Douche"
:D
I have a friend that has basically the same deck (Derevi precon) and he added in {Birthing Pod} and {Mirari's Wake} u may want to give that a go if its in ur budget.
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on May 05, 2014, 09:57:32 PM
I have a friend that has basically the same deck (Derevi precon) and he added in {Birthing Pod} and {Mirari's Wake} u may want to give that a go if its in ur budget.
Both are in my budget, and good ideas. Thanks.
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 05, 2014, 10:05:17 PM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on May 05, 2014, 09:57:32 PM
I have a friend that has basically the same deck (Derevi precon) and he added in {Birthing Pod} and {Mirari's Wake} u may want to give that a go if its in ur budget.
Both are in my budget, and good ideas. Thanks.
Ye np he also uses {kitchen finks}, which I dont think u had listed but I might have missed it. It may be an added interaction though Im not intimate with his build Id have to ask him but I think its something to do with Pod specifically. edit: nm finks there already. I'll confirm soon wat his combo is and relay to u
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on May 05, 2014, 10:37:26 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 05, 2014, 10:05:17 PM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on May 05, 2014, 09:57:32 PM
I have a friend that has basically the same deck (Derevi precon) and he added in {Birthing Pod} and {Mirari's Wake} u may want to give that a go if its in ur budget.
Both are in my budget, and good ideas. Thanks.
Ye np he also uses {kitchen finks}, which I dont think u had listed but I might have missed it. It may be an added interaction though Im not intimate with his build Id have to ask him but I think its something to do with Pod specifically. edit: nm finks there already. I'll confirm soon wat his combo is and relay to u
Awesome, thanks. I gotta find a pod somewhere.
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 05, 2014, 10:53:34 PM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on May 05, 2014, 10:37:26 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 05, 2014, 10:05:17 PM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on May 05, 2014, 09:57:32 PM
I have a friend that has basically the same deck (Derevi precon) and he added in {Birthing Pod} and {Mirari's Wake} u may want to give that a go if its in ur budget.
Both are in my budget, and good ideas. Thanks.
Ye np he also uses {kitchen finks}, which I dont think u had listed but I might have missed it. It may be an added interaction though Im not intimate with his build Id have to ask him but I think its something to do with Pod specifically. edit: nm finks there already. I'll confirm soon wat his combo is and relay to u
Awesome, thanks. I gotta find a pod somewhere.
He says finks are best 3cost for pod steps- 4 life swing and a chump to get you to 4cmc. Seems Legit. Id say u do need a Pod
Yep, soon as I find one to trade for or buy 1 online I'll grab it. Pod-ing finks into {restoration angel} is always fun.
Didnt realize how nice pod is for persist until right now. Now I want 1- or 4
I have a derevi deck built on cockatrice that has a birthing pod package. I'll post it tomorrow! (Not the deck, just the pod package in this thread!) But for now let me say this: whoever suggested pod I shall +1 you! Pod is probably the best permanent to have on the battlefield in a derevi deck. Seriously, it's crazy good with derevi.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on May 06, 2014, 02:38:55 AM
I have a derevi deck built on cockatrice that has a birthing pod package. I'll post it tomorrow! (Not the deck, just the pod package in this thread!) But for now let me say this: whoever suggested pod I shall +1 you! Pod is probably the best permanent to have on the battlefield in a derevi deck. Seriously, it's crazy good with derevi.
Thanks!
{Spell Crumple} and {Vedalken Orrey} arent bad options, worth testing for sure.
Ok so cockatrice isn't working for some reason, so I can't access my derevi build. I'll just try to remember the pod package:
Basically your goal is to create a soft lock with {Hokori, Dust-Drinker} and {Seedborn Muse}/{Prophet of Kruphix}. The most common way is this:
Let's say you cast derevi on turn 2 off of a {Birds of Paradise}.
Cast {Birthing Pod} turn 3. Sac derevi and get venser, shaper savant, bouncing one of an opponent's lands.
Next turn flash derevi in, untapping a land. Swing with venser to untap another land. Pod derevi away again yo get {Hokori, Dust Drinker}. Pass.
Next turn you untap 1 land. You now have:
- {Birds of Paradise}
- 2 untalped lands
- 1 tapped land
- venser
- pod
So go ahead and use birds to pod venser away. Get {Seedborn Muse}. Pass. On your opponent's upkeep, flash in derevi to tap one of their lands. Your opponent should have 2 untapped lands max at this point. You have locked them out.
Next turn pod derevi away and get something scary! You can also pod birds away to get {Thalia, Guardian of Thraben}, {Stoneforge Mystic}, or any good 2 drop!
Remember, Derevi can untap {Birthing Pod}, so sometimes you can even use it twice in one turn! ;)
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on May 07, 2014, 11:42:22 AM
Ok so cockatrice isn't working for some reason, so I can't access my derevi build. I'll just try to remember the pod package:
Basically your goal is to create a soft lock with {Hokori, Dust-Drinker} and {Seedborn Muse}/{Prophet of Kruphix}. The most common way is this:
Let's say you cast derevi on turn 2 off of a {Birds of Paradise}.
Cast {Birthing Pod} turn 3. Sac derevi and get venser, shaper savant, bouncing one of an opponent's lands.
Next turn flash derevi in, untapping a land. Swing with venser to untap another land. Pod derevi away again yo get {Hokori, Dust Drinker}. Pass.
Next turn you untap 1 land. You now have:
- {Birds of Paradise}
- 2 untalped lands
- 1 tapped land
- venser
- pod
So go ahead and use birds to pod venser away. Get {Seedborn Muse}. Pass. On your opponent's upkeep, flash in derevi to tap one of their lands. Your opponent should have 2 untapped lands max at this point. You have locked them out.
Next turn pod derevi away and get something scary! You can also pod birds away to get {Thalia, Guardian of Thraben}, {Stoneforge Mystic}, or any good 2 drop!
Remember, Derevi can untap {Birthing Pod}, so sometimes you can even use it twice in one turn! ;)
That's filthy. Really good.
Thanks for all the help guys! +1s all around ;)
Lots of stuff to add to the tcgplayer order. Also, I should throw my {eternal witness} in there.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on May 07, 2014, 11:42:22 AM
Ok so cockatrice isn't working for some reason, so I can't access my derevi build. I'll just try to remember the pod package:
Basically your goal is to create a soft lock with {Hokori, Dust-Drinker} and {Seedborn Muse}/{Prophet of Kruphix}. The most common way is this:
Let's say you cast derevi on turn 2 off of a {Birds of Paradise}.
Cast {Birthing Pod} turn 3. Sac derevi and get venser, shaper savant, bouncing one of an opponent's lands.
Next turn flash derevi in, untapping a land. Swing with venser to untap another land. Pod derevi away again yo get {Hokori, Dust Drinker}. Pass.
Next turn you untap 1 land. You now have:
- {Birds of Paradise}
- 2 untalped lands
- 1 tapped land
- venser
- pod
So go ahead and use birds to pod venser away. Get {Seedborn Muse}. Pass. On your opponent's upkeep, flash in derevi to tap one of their lands. Your opponent should have 2 untapped lands max at this point. You have locked them out.
Next turn pod derevi away and get something scary! You can also pod birds away to get {Thalia, Guardian of Thraben}, {Stoneforge Mystic}, or any good 2 drop!
Remember, Derevi can untap {Birthing Pod}, so sometimes you can even use it twice in one turn! ;)
Does this happen often
Yes. If you get birthing pod, it is extremely easy to get hokori + seedborn out because derevi always costs 4. So you basically ALWAYS have a 3 drop to pod into a 4 drop. It's pretty awesome.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on May 08, 2014, 11:03:45 AM
Yes. If you get birthing pod, it is extremely easy to get hokori + seedborn out because derevi always costs 4. So you basically ALWAYS have a 3 drop to pod into a 4 drop. It's pretty awesome.
Derevi is 3 ;)
Which means you get a 4 drop to pod into?
Yeah. I meant that you (I think) made a typo and said Derevi cost 4. Anyway, doesn't matter. Thanks for all your help.
Grabbed a {Mirari's Wake} for this at a draft today. Cut the {Conjurers's Closet}.
Just bought a {Sensei's Divining Top}, {Birthing Pod}, and {Hokori, Dust Drinker} for this today! Very happy! Now I just need to find my {Eternal Witness}.
I built a wicked mean derevi deck on mtgo and I borrowed sparkle ninjas {Enchanted Evening} {Aura Thief} combo. It works fantastically
If u want kann I can post the decklist as I built it
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on May 13, 2014, 06:35:05 AM
I built a wicked mean derevi deck on mtgo and I borrowed sparkle ninjas {Enchanted Evening} {Aura Thief} combo. It works fantastically
If u want kann I can post the decklist as I built it
That would be great. Seems like a fun combo :)
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 13, 2014, 06:50:12 AM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on May 13, 2014, 06:35:05 AM
I built a wicked mean derevi deck on mtgo and I borrowed sparkle ninjas {Enchanted Evening} {Aura Thief} combo. It works fantastically
If u want kann I can post the decklist as I built it
That would be great. Seems like a fun combo :)
*Creatures*21*Other spells*44*
{Green Sun Zenith}
{Terastodon}
{Fated Retribution}
{Tooth and Nail}
{Deadeye Navigator}
{Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir}
{Elspeth Tirel}
{Lavinia of the Tenth}
{Prophet of Kruphix}
{Seedborn Muse}
{Acidic Slime}
{Enchanted Evening}
{Mulldrifter}
{Gilded Lotus}
{Plasm Capture}
{Hokori, Dust Drinker}
{Grand Arbiter Augustin}
{Bident of Thassa}
{Venser, Shaper Savant}
{Rising Waters}
{Aura Thief}
{Birthing Pod}
{Thran Dynamo}
{Bant Charm}
{Flickerwisp}
{Temporal Spring}
{Eternal Witness}
{Kitchen Sinks}
{Rootborn Defenses}
{Oblivion Ring}
{Mirror Entity}
{Auramancer}
{Fabricate}
{Rhystic Studly}
{Drift of Phantasms}
{Krosan Grip}
{Sculpting Steel}
{Orb of Dreams}
{Grand Abolisher}
{Regrowth}
{Darksteel Mutation}
{Cyclonic Rift}
{Arcane Denial}
{Standstill}
{Sage Owl}
{Stasis}
{Gaea's Blessing}
{Spring Cleaning}
{Hasty Boots}
{Winter Orb}
{Scroll Rack}
{Condemn}
{Preordain}
{Ponder}
{Mystic Speculation}
{Rapid Hybridization}
{Pongify}
{Brainstorm}
{Sylvan Tutor}
{Birds of Paradise}
{Sol Ring}
{Sensei's Divining Top}
{Mana Vault}
{Elixir of Immortality}
{Amulet of Vigor}
*Lands* 34
{Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers}
{Academy Ruins}
{Hallowed Fountain}
3 guildgates
{Temple Garden}
{Breeding Pool}
{Vesuva}
{Treetop Village}
{Terramorphic Expanse}
{Temple of the False God}
{Sunpetal grove}
{Simic Growth Chamber}
{Selesnya Sanctuary}
2 Refuges
{Hinterland Harbor}
{Glacial Fortress}
{Ghost Quarter}
{Gavony Township}
{Evolving Wilds}
{Command Tower}
{Bant Panorama}
{Alchemists Refuge}
3 of each basic
Listed from highest to lowest in casting cost.
Thank you very much!
-1 {Blade Spilcer}
+1 {Hokori, Dust Drinker}
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 14, 2014, 07:02:13 PM
-1 {Blade Spilcer}
+1 {Hokori, Dust Drinker}
Strong choice
Once a bunch of other stuff comes in the mail it will be going in, and once I find my eternal witness I'll play that too.
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 14, 2014, 08:39:08 PM
Once a bunch of other stuff comes in the mail it will be going in, and once I find my eternal witness I'll play that too.
Im seriously considering buying that Derevi precon they're still only 30 on amazon.com
It's good, but needs a lot of work to make it awesome. Unless you really like green I'd get the oloro deck. Or just both. But oloro seems fun too.
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 14, 2014, 10:41:46 PM
It's good, but needs a lot of work to make it awesome. Unless you really like green I'd get the oloro deck. Or just both. But oloro seems fun too.
Yeah Oloro does seem fun as well, he just seems like a painted target more than derevi does for some reason
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on May 15, 2014, 12:37:00 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 14, 2014, 10:41:46 PM
It's good, but needs a lot of work to make it awesome. Unless you really like green I'd get the oloro deck. Or just both. But oloro seems fun too.
Yeah Oloro does seem fun as well, he just seems like a painted target more than derevi does for some reason
Not really. People really hate derevi, and she's banned in 1v1 so most people wont let you play her against them.
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 15, 2014, 06:46:55 AM
Quote from: PrEZchoICE1 on May 15, 2014, 12:37:00 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 14, 2014, 10:41:46 PM
It's good, but needs a lot of work to make it awesome. Unless you really like green I'd get the oloro deck. Or just both. But oloro seems fun too.
Yeah Oloro does seem fun as well, he just seems like a painted target more than derevi does for some reason
Not really. People really hate derevi, and she's banned in 1v1 so most people wont let you play her against them.
Shes not banned on Mtgo.. And my lgs is just casual run what u brung type playgroup for commander. I found a new toy for the deck: {Wargate}
I play that, in Chinese :)
{Aven Mindcensor} would be good in this
Nope. I'm playing a few search effects myself, including {Birthing Pod}. Which reminds me:
New changes are:
-1 {Phantom Nantuko}
-1 {Bant Panorama}
-1 {Kazandu Tuskcaller}
+1 {Sensei's Divining Top}
+1 {Windbrisk Heights}
+1 {Birthing Pod}
Should I put {Bane of Progress} (back) into the deck
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 15, 2014, 06:54:41 PM
Nope. I'm playing a few search effects myself, including {Birthing Pod}. Which reminds me:
New changes are:
-1 {Phantom Nantuko}
-1 {Bant Panorama}
-1 {Kazandu Tuskcaller}
+1 {Sensei's Divining Top}
+1 {Windbrisk Heights}
+1 {Birthing Pod}
Should I put {Bane of Progress} (back) into the deck
He takes out my competitive EDH decks
Not sure what to cut... Ideas?
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 15, 2014, 09:22:55 PM
Not sure what to cut... Ideas?
If u havent cut one already Id say either coatl or lu xun. Considering all the removal going on Id prolly rather run coatl and cut lu- my playstyle i would rather a draw spell in hand like brainstorm or even a remand for tempo. I think personally Id even prefer thassa over lu.
So today I built my derevi deck but Im far from finished. My friend has me convinced thassa is a great choice here for her obv. Strong scry but also her ability to give unblockable with derevi on the field
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 15, 2014, 06:54:41 PM
Nope. I'm playing a few search effects myself, including {Birthing Pod}. Which reminds me:
{Aven Mindcensor} says opponents cant search more then 4 cards. you can still search your deck
Quote from: AdamS on May 17, 2014, 09:06:45 AM
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 15, 2014, 06:54:41 PM
Nope. I'm playing a few search effects myself, including {Birthing Pod}. Which reminds me:
{Aven Mindcensor} says opponents cant search more then 4 cards. you can still search your deck
Right. Reading is a good skill :D
Added 1 {bane of progress},took out Lu Xun. Added a {brainstorm} instead of fleecemane.
Precons are great shells to build from, it just so happens the cards that you end up needing are the most expensive :(
Quote from: Muggywuggy on May 20, 2014, 06:11:00 PM
Precons are great shells to build from, it just so happens the cards that you end up needing are the most expensive :(
This is only true if u take pride in most expensive deck. I bought the derevi precon and have only had to spend about 50 so far. Another 50 to go. I might spring for a top which would mean another 80 to go... U dont have to go that route though.
Quote from: New2MTG on May 20, 2014, 11:34:06 PM
What r some cards that could be switched in the Precon deck
I have a jace and a garruk and Ajani
Which jace, which Garruk, and which ajani? I'd appreciate if you'd make your own thread for your own deck, we're getting a little off topic here.
Well, I got milled to death by {geth, lord of the vault} by a guy who took my {hokori dust drinker}/{prophet of kruphix} combo and had both {cabal coffers} and {nykthos, shrine to nyx}.... Then he killed the other guy with my {mirror entity} and a {malakir blood witch}. Lol :P
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 25, 2014, 08:17:27 AM
Well, I got milled to death by {geth, lord of the vault} by a guy who took my {hokori dust drinker}/{prophet of kruphix} combo and had both {cabal coffers} and {nykthos, shrine to nyx}.... Then he killed the other guy with my {mirror entity} and a {malakir blood witch}. Lol :P
I personally run ten wipes, and seem to always be able to find one when I need it. Ive also been running {strip mine} package with {restore} which can be tutored with {muddle the mixture}.
It's hard to wrath without any mana....
Added a {Palinchron}, {bane of progress}, {wargate}, {alchemist's refuge}, and {brainstorm}. And maybe some other things I can't remember right now.
I'm short one card. Not sure what, I'll figure it out later. I really need a {lignify} for this. Actually, I may have enough commander removal. Not sure. Thoughts?