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Title: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on January 29, 2014, 10:30:04 PM

My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.

67 cards, 0 sideboard


25 {Swamp}

25 lands


2 {Hythonia the Cruel}
4 {Erebos's Emissary}
2 {Slitherhead}
2 {Tormented Hero}
1 {Erebos, God of the Dead}
2 {Gray Merchant of Asphodel}
3 {Disciple of Phenax}
3 {Mogis's Marauder}
2 {Rakdos Shred-Freak}

21 creatures


2 {Pharika's Cure}
3 {Scourgemark}
3 {Sinister Possession}
2 {Grisly Spectacle}
2 {Viper's Kiss}
4 {Ordeal of Erebos}
2 {Doom Blade}
3 {Boon of Erebos}

21 other spells


Sideboard

Notes:
He's freaking out and needs help. Could you give some suggestions for stuff under 2 dollars because he doesn't have very many rares. Please. He feels really bad because he can't ever win anything.
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Spencer Addington on January 29, 2014, 10:34:06 PM
Part of losing is learning bro.
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on January 29, 2014, 10:37:10 PM
I know but He feels so terrible and I try to help, but its hard. I mean his deck isn't a complete failure. He still needs a bit of help.
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: abstractApathist on January 29, 2014, 10:50:20 PM
4 {Gray Merchant of Asphodel} is a good start. If you want cheap devotion cards, you can use {dark prophecy} and also add in something like {rescue from the underworld} to recur your bombs.
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Ertai on January 29, 2014, 10:57:29 PM
Why only 2$ or under?
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Spencer Addington on January 29, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
I'm assuming his little brother doesn't have much spending money.
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Slenderbro on January 29, 2014, 10:59:21 PM
Quote from: Ertai on January 29, 2014, 10:57:29 PM
Why only 2$ or under?
Because not everyone can afford a playset of nightveils/demons/mutavaults
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on January 29, 2014, 11:02:44 PM
My brother is ten. He doesn't have much trade stuff and I'll spring for the stuff you have suggested for him
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Spencer Addington on January 29, 2014, 11:04:04 PM
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on January 29, 2014, 11:02:44 PM
My brother is ten. He doesn't have much trade stuff and I'll spring for the stuff you have suggested for him
How old are you?
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on January 29, 2014, 11:09:14 PM
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Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: darkarts981 on January 29, 2014, 11:15:06 PM
More Grey Merchants, more removal ({doom blade}, {pharikas cure}), and {Pack Rats}, {Whip of Erebos}. A few of those may be higher than I thought in price.

Edit: SINCE WHEN IS PACK RAT FIVE .LOVIN. DOLLARS!!!
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: particle on January 29, 2014, 11:18:25 PM
{duress} and lose {disciple of phenax} for something.
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on January 29, 2014, 11:25:02 PM
I'll consider the Pack Rats. I mean I could trade for those for him
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on January 29, 2014, 11:26:23 PM
Guys, really thanks for all the help. I'll put all this into consideration.
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Spencer Addington on January 29, 2014, 11:26:24 PM
Quote from: darkarts981 on January 29, 2014, 11:15:06 PM
More Grey Merchants, more removal ({doom blade}, {pharikas cure}), and {Pack Rats}, {Whip of Erebos}. A few of those may be higher than I thought in price.

Edit: SINCE WHEN IS PACK RAT FIVE .LOVIN. DOLLARS!!!
RIGHT??? It's crazy. I was contemplating buying a playset for a dollar each a while ago but I didn't pull the trigger. Stupid decision.
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: darkarts981 on January 29, 2014, 11:36:25 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on January 29, 2014, 11:26:24 PM
Quote from: darkarts981 on January 29, 2014, 11:15:06 PM
More Grey Merchants, more removal ({doom blade}, {pharikas cure}), and {Pack Rats}, {Whip of Erebos}. A few of those may be higher than I thought in price.

Edit: SINCE WHEN IS PACK RAT FIVE .LOVIN. DOLLARS!!!
RIGHT??? It's crazy. I was contemplating buying a playset for a dollar each a while ago but I didn't pull the trigger. Stupid decision.
I guess Mono Black Devo/MBC is a bigger thing than I thought.
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Phoenix X30 on January 29, 2014, 11:49:15 PM
A couple of  {Underworld Connections} shouldn't break the bank and can help you dig for stuff. Couple it with  {Whip of Erebos} and you basically have free card draw.
Failing that  {Read the Bones} is decent.
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Destore117 on January 29, 2014, 11:50:31 PM
Things that I run {lash of the whip} {baleful eidolon} {cutthroat maneuver} wouldn't be awful for his creatures to give him lifelink and a bit of extra power.
Also {tormented hero} if he has all the scourgemarks
{blood toll harpy} is fun if he plays multiplayer if you've got life gain (as black should)
Also. Cut the land to 24? And if possible trim the deck to 60 cards to make it much more consistent. If you've got time make a low cost deck of your own to play against him with that might also help. Idk how busy you are but maybe on a weekend or something you teach him strategies for his deck?
What cards to pair together and what not.
If you're willing to leave Standard
{tribute to hunger} gets around almost all protections on a creature.
{Basilica screecher} is fun with low cost spells to extort every turn
{underworld dreams} adds 3 devotion and hurts opponents all the time.
{vampire nighthawk} the most cuddly chump blocker in town
Get life and kill things

Hope I was helpful!
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Spencer Addington on January 29, 2014, 11:53:05 PM
If your brother wants to leave standard, I can donate a playset of nighthawks :)
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Destore117 on January 30, 2014, 12:03:26 AM
Quote from: Taysby on January 30, 2014, 12:01:10 AM
Nighthawk isn't standard?  My life is a lie!
Wasn't sure if it was never play standard so wanted to be safe and assume it wasn't
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Mattao19 on January 30, 2014, 03:29:39 AM
Monoblack is so popular bc of 3 things:

1. The removal
2. The early and late game it has
3. Gary is a Baws

So,

1. Make sure that your brother has good removal, like 4x {Pharikas Cure} 4x {Devour Flesh} and maybe 2x {Ultimate Price} main board then he should sideboard in (depending on the matchup) {Doom Blade} and {Dark betrayal}

2. Apply early pressure with smaller stuff. The net deck runs {Pack Rat} but that's pricey so look at cool 2 drop {B} creatures and run them. Also, run enchantments that add to devotion. {Whip of Erebos} is great!! Also, {Dark Prophecy} and {Underworld Connections} are great!! (That's your mid game btw) your late game should drop {B} BOMBS!! {Gray Merchant of Asphadel} is definitely a Baws here but also add stuff like {Lord of the Void} to just pound their face even bigger!!

3. Ya Gary is just great!!

Lastly if you want me to build a deck list for him I can :P
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on January 30, 2014, 07:21:48 AM
Thanks guys. I'll put all this into consideration. The {dark prophecy}s are most definitely doable and the whips I have two of already. Really guys thank you.
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Destore117 on January 30, 2014, 10:12:33 AM
{Abhorrent Overlord} is always fun with mass devotion because either you sac him next turn and have an army of harpies or you just sac the harps and have a 5/5 flying beastie.
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Ieatfood7 on January 30, 2014, 10:24:26 AM
My advice is to have him focus on winning at the end of the short game or the end of the medium game. Shred freak is not bad at all and an aggro black deck with four 2/1 hero, 4 {rakdos cackler} four {shred freak} four {marauder of mogus}...that could work, though like most weenie decks its weak to {supreme verdict}.

Or go more mid game, like a lot of these folks suggest. More removal (I like {ultimate price} at the moment, and doom blade and {devour flesh} are also very good) four grey merchant, etc is strong.
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Skyshadow731 on January 30, 2014, 01:00:13 PM
why dont you have him change it to R/B  Aggro, its cheap i can bump mine. its really not expensive. the majority of the cards are like 4-5 dollars. i have bumped it. mono red devtion touched by exava.
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Ieatfood7 on January 30, 2014, 01:02:14 PM
RB aggro is the cheapest deck you can build that is respectable enough for FNM. Five bucks total if you like.
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Skyshadow731 on January 30, 2014, 01:12:19 PM
yea i was looking at my deck and with out the blood crypts its basically total 50 bucks. its really cheap. with that deck list i have place 12th out of 40 at my fnm and alot of the guys that play at my lgs go to PTQs
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Ieatfood7 on January 30, 2014, 01:21:08 PM
Lol. I mean five dollars. Now, the five dollar build is not going to win any pro tours, but its a good starting place to add value to.

When {rakdos cackler} is your most expensive card, your ok
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Skyshadow731 on January 30, 2014, 01:47:07 PM
yea. but you could also run exava and she is 1.50 and she is a really good 4 drop.
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Ieatfood7 on January 30, 2014, 02:04:00 PM
I agree. The most important cards are the cheapest though, in my opinion. {madcap skills} {slaughter games} (When you see blue and white, name supreme verdict) {rackdos cackler} {shred freak}. {spike jester}. {magus marauder}. Maybe {fanatic of mogus}.
Title: Re: My little brother's Mono-Black. Oh my god please help.
Post by: Skyshadow731 on January 31, 2014, 12:19:27 PM
if your trying to speed out i say you shouldnt run fanatic cause he is SUPER slow if your trying to win by turn 4. i would run Chandra's phoenix instead of fanatic. and run burn spells such as magma jet or you can run dreadbore.