Say my opponent casts {last breath} on my {frostburn weird} in response I pump my weird's power to 3. Does that nullify the {last breath}?
I believe it does nullify it, but I've been wrong many times.
Yes. The weird becomes an illegal target and last breath is countered as it resolves. (I'm 99% sure)
I'll go look up some rulings, 1 sec.
608.2b. If the spell or ability specifies targets, it checks whether the targets are still legal. A target that's no longer in the zone it was in when it was targeted is illegal. Other changes to the game state may cause a target to no longer be legal; for example, its characteristics may have changed or an effect may have changed the text of the spell. If the source of an ability has left the zone it was in, its last known information is used during this process. The spell or ability is countered if all its targets, for every instance of the word "target," are now illegal. If the spell or ability is not countered, it will resolve normally. However, if any of its targets are illegal, the part of the spell or ability's effect for which it is an illegal target can't perform any actions on that target, make another object or player perform any actions on that target, or make that target perform any actions. The effect may still determine information about illegal targets, though, and other parts of the effect for which those targets are not illegal may still affect them.
RESOLVED
608.2b (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=608.2b): If the spell or ability specifies targets, it checks whether the targets are still legal. A target that's no longer in the zone it was in when it was targeted is illegal. Other changes to the game state may cause a target to no longer be legal; for example, its characteristics may have changed or an effect may have changed the text of the spell. If the source of an ability has left the zone it was in, its last known information is used during this process. The spell or ability is countered if all its targets, for every instance of the word "target," are now illegal. If the spell or ability is not countered, it will resolve normally. However, if any of its targets are illegal, the part of the spell or ability's effect for which it is an illegal target can't perform any actions on that target, make another object or player perform any actions on that target, or make that target perform any actions. The effect may still determine information about illegal targets, though, and other parts of the effect for which those targets are not illegal may still affect them.
Example: Sorin's Thirst is a black instant that reads, "Sorin's Thirst deals 2 damage to target creature and you gain 2 life." If the creature isn't a legal target during the resolution of Sorin's Thirst (say, if the creature has gained protection from black or left the battlefield), then Sorin's Thirst is countered. Its controller doesn't gain any life.
Example: Plague Spores reads, "Destroy target nonblack creature and target land. They can't be regenerated." Suppose the same animated land is chosen both as the nonblack creature and as the land, and the color of the creature land is changed to black before Plague Spores resolves. Plagues Spores isn't countered because the black creature land is still a legal target for the "target land" part of the spell. The "destroy target nonblack creature" part of the spell won't affect that permanent, but the "destroy target land" part of the spell will still destroy it. It can't be regenerated.
Ok. That's a huge rule, so I bolded the parts that are actually relevant. I was gonna delete some parts but then I thought the examples might be helpful. Just to be clear, when it says "countered" it means countered by the game's rules, not by a player.
WHAT? No... :P guess that's what I get for taking too long to bold things on an ipad... Lol ;)
Thanks guys. Saw this scenario happen during a star city tournament. Except The guy with the weird didn't pump it.
geez, yeah, that'd take a while on an ipad....
+1 for effort!
Quote from: Testset on January 25, 2014, 11:19:46 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on January 25, 2014, 11:17:45 PM
WHAT? No... :P guess that's what I get for taking too log to bold things on an ipad... Lol ;)
I appreciate you citing the rule, regardless. 👍
Gotta work on my speed-bolding of things (don't tell me that's not a word, I don't care that it isn't ;) ) for next time.
Quote from: fj76ts4 on January 25, 2014, 11:21:12 PM
geez, yeah, that'd take a while on an ipad....
+1 for effort!
Thanks :)