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Legacy Mill 75 cards, 15 sideboard 2 {Marsh Flats} 3 {Scalding Tarn} 4 {Sunken Ruins} 2 {Darkwater Catacombs} 2 {Swamp} 6 {Island} 4 {Drowned Catacomb} 23 lands 4 {Phantasmal Bear} 4 {Hedron Crab} 4 {Phantasmal Image} 4 {Lord of the Unreal} 4 {Sewer Nemesis} 2 {Nemesis of Reason} 22 creatures 2 {Dark Ritual} 4 {Brain Freeze} 3 {Glimpse the Unthinkable} 2 {Sword of Body and Mind} 1 {Rhystic Study} 3 {Jace, Memory Adept} 15 other spells Sideboard 3 {Archive Trap} 2 {Jester's Cap} 3 {Surgical Extraction} 3 {Phyrexian Revoker} 4 {Hurkyl's Recall} 15 sideboard cards

I been running tables with this deck on Cockatrice.  This deck is what I own.  My Cockatrice variant runs {jace the mindsculptor} and a playset of {force of will}.  I want to take it to a legacy tournament but there is one deck that owns this one pretty good......the {cranial plating} deck with fast artis like {signal pest}, {memnite}, {frogmite}, and so on.  Give me some ideas to negate that mofo.

{Hurkyl's Recall} should help. Add {Cunning Wish} to your deck and you can pull a sideboard card any time you need to.

Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on March 25, 2012, 11:12:17 AM
{Hurkyl's Recall} should help. Add {Cunning Wish} to your deck and you can pull a sideboard card any time you need to.

Awesome....I just realized {nevenyrils disk} too

So I updated the list.....here is what I am looking at now.  Needed way more control and {counterbalance} with {senseis diving top} helps a lot

Mill is a tough build.  I am still trying to get this thing more reliable....it is just not consistent.  I added 4 {propaganda} now to help keep Aggro decks in check.  Aggro is my worst enemy with this deck.....anyone have suggestions for dealing with pesky Aggro decks?

Black has a ton of cheap creature removal.

{Evacuation}

Quote from: Harmon74 on April 03, 2012, 08:00:51 PM
Black has a ton of cheap creature removal.

Spot removal just takes up precious card spots in the deck.  I had a playset of {go for the throat} but it was not that helpful.  I am going more towards countering/control and making them pay to attack.

I added the crabs and what fetch lands I have......we'll see how this build goes

Quote from: BlackJester on April 03, 2012, 08:07:11 PM
{Evacuation}

I have a set of {wash out}......I gave them some consideration as well.  I was thinking of {black suns zenith} too but I don't own any.

How about {Damnation}, {Consume The Meek}, or {The Abyss}?

Quote from: Harmon74 on April 03, 2012, 09:51:09 PM
How about {Damnation}, {Consume The Meek}, or {The Abyss}?

I thought about damnation but those other two are great suggestions.  The Abyss is just a big ole meanie head.

I just ran this on Cockatrice and it did really well but I only played one person and he was running a control deck......this deck tends to outlast other control decks.  I will test in RL against some control decks once the few cards I am waiting for come in.

I used to run {the abyss} in a mono black land destruction deck back in the day with {nether void} it was nasty.

Quote from: Harmon74 on April 03, 2012, 11:59:43 PM
I used to run {the abyss} in a mono black land destruction deck back in the day with {nether void} it was nasty.

Sounds nasty....that sounds like the days of {sink hole} and {strip mine}

Yep.  I had friends that wouldn't play me, because it just wasn't fun for them.  I don't know why?  I thought it was great fun!  Lol. They'd have a hand full of cards and no land in play.  Great fun!! :)

Quote from: Harmon74 on April 04, 2012, 10:17:04 AM
Yep.  I had friends that wouldn't play me, because it just wasn't fun for them.  I don't know why?  I thought it was great fun!  Lol. They'd have a hand full of cards and no land in play.  Great fun!! :)

Yea that is the bad thing about a deck that is too good......no one wants to play against it.

Quote from: cltrn81 on April 04, 2012, 08:10:00 AM

Quote from: Harmon74 on April 03, 2012, 11:59:43 PM
I used to run {the abyss} in a mono black land destruction deck back in the day with {nether void} it was nasty.

Sounds nasty....that sounds like the days of {sink hole} and {strip mine}

Not as bad as {Fastbond} + {Strip Mine} + {Crucible of Worlds}.  That's just rude!

That would clear out your opponents lands pretty quick!  Lol

Hey BJ. How do you quote and then type outside of it, to respond??

Quote from: Harmon74 on April 04, 2012, 01:34:54 PM
Hey BJ. How do you quote and then type outside of it, to respond??

If you're on the iPod/iPhone, there should be a "Quote" button in the text box of comments.  Hit that, then scroll to the very bottom and start typing after you see [ / quote ].

If you don't, you'll end up putting your comments in the middle of the quote.

Thanks again BJ.

{ensnaring bridge} FTW!!!  My meta is creature heavy so this deck was having trouble relying on countering and {propaganda} to keep em in check.  The bridges put the big boys back in check. 

Quote from: cltrn81 on April 17, 2012, 11:16:07 PM
{ensnaring bridge} FTW!!!  My meta is creature heavy so this deck was having trouble relying on countering and {propaganda} to keep em in check.  The bridges put the big boys back in check.

I like {Meekstone} too. {Propaganda} is good vs. hordes, meekstone nerfs fatties. Bases covered. ⚾

Quote from: BlackJester on April 18, 2012, 01:14:17 AM

Quote from: cltrn81 on April 17, 2012, 11:16:07 PM
{ensnaring bridge} FTW!!!  My meta is creature heavy so this deck was having trouble relying on countering and {propaganda} to keep em in check.  The bridges put the big boys back in check.

I like {Meekstone} too. {Propaganda} is good vs. hordes, meekstone nerfs fatties. Bases covered. ⚾

I considered meekstone but I do not want to limit my secondary win-con {sewer nemesis}.  He wins as many games for me as milling......especially when he has a sword vs a blue or green deck.

{crawlspace} could also help, limit the amount of creatures attacking you

The dick in me says use a { portcullis} nothing says control like that

Try to use a {mind funeral}

Quote from: Deathstorm on July 01, 2012, 09:36:01 AM
The dick in me says use a { portcullis} nothing says control like that

Ummm... The dick in you can talk? ??? Mines never said a peep. 😂

Quote from: BlackJester on August 05, 2012, 12:20:49 PM

Quote from: Deathstorm on July 01, 2012, 09:36:01 AM
The dick in me says use a { portcullis} nothing says control like that

Ummm... The dick in you can talk? ??? Mines never said a peep. 😂

You guys have dicks in you?  Ewww so gross 😂