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Title: Cheating in Black creatures
Post by: Destore117 on January 16, 2014, 09:54:00 PM
Looking for a Modern legal mono black way to easily get {Phage The Untouchable} into play. Without waiting until T7 any ideas?
Title: Re: Cheating in Black creatures
Post by: Stromack on January 16, 2014, 09:55:02 PM
You can't cheat phage in or you lose. Best bet is to use ramp
Title: Re: Cheating in Black creatures
Post by: Falcon182 on January 16, 2014, 09:58:45 PM
 {Torpor Orb},  {Stifle},  {Trickbind}, {squelch} with any reanimator strategy. 3 card combo though.
Title: Re: Cheating in Black creatures
Post by: Destore117 on January 16, 2014, 10:01:32 PM
So there's no like you may play a black creature from your hand? :/
Darn.
Title: Re: Cheating in Black creatures
Post by: Falcon182 on January 16, 2014, 10:32:01 PM
 {Dream Halls} or  {Omniscience}.
Title: Re: Cheating in Black creatures
Post by: Destore117 on January 16, 2014, 10:32:47 PM
{Deathrender}? Put it on something then sac it or Kill it with any number of black spells?
Title: Re: Cheating in Black creatures
Post by: Lyriczulu on January 16, 2014, 10:47:56 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on January 16, 2014, 10:32:47 PM
{Deathrender}? Put it on something then sac it or Kill it with any number of black spells?

That wouldn't work just like many other spells like {Through the Breach}. {Phage the Untouchable} must be cast from your hand so you don't lose, it can't be put into play by other effects.
Title: Re: Cheating in Black creatures
Post by: Destore117 on January 16, 2014, 10:53:19 PM
So you'd need something to cast it with paying less mana or without paying mana cost....hmm k so couldn't stay mono black...
Title: Re: Cheating in Black creatures
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 16, 2014, 10:56:10 PM
The best thing to do would probably just go {B}{G} or {B} devotion. Use ramp and mana dorks. {Crypt Ghast} might help and so could {Magus of the Coffers} and {Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx}. Use scary things like {Deathrite Shaman}, {Vampire Nighthawk} and {Phyrexian Obliterator} to survive early game and build up your devotion.
Title: Re: Cheating in Black creatures
Post by: Birdbrain on January 16, 2014, 11:05:46 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on January 16, 2014, 10:01:32 PM
So there's no like you may play a black creature from your hand? :/
Darn.
{elvish piper}
Title: Re: Cheating in Black creatures
Post by: Lyriczulu on January 16, 2014, 11:16:10 PM
Quote from: Ertai on January 16, 2014, 11:14:53 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 16, 2014, 11:05:46 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on January 16, 2014, 10:01:32 PM
So there's no like you may play a black creature from your hand? :/
Darn.
{elvish piper}

Modern legal he said.

That wouldn't work anyway since it's not being cast.
Title: Re: Cheating in Black creatures
Post by: MuggyWuggy on January 16, 2014, 11:17:03 PM
 {Quicksilver Amulet}
Title: Re: Cheating in Black creatures
Post by: Kaleo42 on January 16, 2014, 11:23:44 PM
You can not put her in without casting herand hope to still be in the game. That means paying the cost and playing her like a normal creature. Youre only ways to "cheat" her in is play without paying the cost ({omniscience}) or deal with her trigger via {torper orb}, {stifle}, or effects that keep you from losing the game like {angel's grace} or {sundial of the infinite}.