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Title: Smallpox.
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 11, 2014, 02:51:24 PM

Smallpox.

60 cards, 15 sideboard


2 {Ghost Quarter}
3 {Inkmoth Nexus}
3 {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth}
11 {Swamp}
2 {Tectonic Edge}

21 lands


4 {Dark Confidant}

4 creatures


3 {Wrench Mind}
2 {Disfigure}
3 {Dismember}
4 {Shrieking Affliction}
4 {Thoughtseize}
4 {The Rack}
4 {Inquisition of Kozilek}
2 {Liliana of the Veil}
2 {Raven's Crime}
3 {Smallpox}
4 {Ensnaring Bridge}

35 other spells


Sideboard

1 {Smallpox}
2 {Illness in the Ranks}
1 {Damnation}
2 {Liliana of the Veil}
2 {Pithing Needle}
2 {Torpor Orb}
3 {Surgical Extraction}
1 {Relic of Progenitus}
1 {Crucible of Worlds}

15 sideboard cards


Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: abstractApathist on January 11, 2014, 03:17:15 PM
I don't think {Phyrexian Obliterator} really belongs here, although bob is a nice touch. I would recommend bumping up to 4 {Liliana of the veil} and 4 {ensnaring bridge} in the mainboard in place of the obliterators.
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: Dstyle1 on January 11, 2014, 09:57:51 PM
Maybe add a mutavault for damage and occasional blocker.

Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 12, 2014, 08:46:51 AM
Quote from: abstractApathist on January 11, 2014, 03:17:15 PM
I don't think {Phyrexian Obliterator} really belongs here, although bob is a nice touch. I would recommend bumping up to 4 {Liliana of the veil} and 4 {ensnaring bridge} in the mainboard in place of the obliterators.

I'll do some play testing. With your suggestions. Though the obliterators are pain  for my opponent and they are I win con.
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: abstractApathist on January 12, 2014, 10:19:11 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 12, 2014, 08:46:51 AM
Quote from: abstractApathist on January 11, 2014, 03:17:15 PM
I don't think {Phyrexian Obliterator} really belongs here, although bob is a nice touch. I would recommend bumping up to 4 {Liliana of the veil} and 4 {ensnaring bridge} in the mainboard in place of the obliterators.

I'll do some play testing. With your suggestions. Though the obliterators are pain  for my opponent and they are I win con.
The main point of 8-rack is that {The rack} and {Shrieking affliction} are your wincon and the deck isn't vulnerable to creature removal.
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 14, 2014, 07:33:30 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on January 12, 2014, 10:19:11 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 12, 2014, 08:46:51 AM
Quote from: abstractApathist on January 11, 2014, 03:17:15 PM
I don't think {Phyrexian Obliterator} really belongs here, although bob is a nice touch. I would recommend bumping up to 4 {Liliana of the veil} and 4 {ensnaring bridge} in the mainboard in place of the obliterators.

I'll do some play testing. With your suggestions. Though the obliterators are pain  for my opponent and they are I win con.
The main point of 8-rack is that {The rack} and {Shrieking affliction} are your wincon and the deck isn't vulnerable to creature removal.

Did some testing you were right. Thanks for advise. 

+1
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: Lyriczulu on January 14, 2014, 08:39:38 PM
Have you tried running a version without {Ensnaring Bridge}? I've been doing a fair amount of reading about this deck for modern and legacy and it seems that if you want to get the most out of using creatures (ie Bob) its better to not have the bridge since you can't really attack.

Instead you use more removal spells like {Darkblast}, {Victim of Night} or {Dismember}. Also, if you do go that plan, you can add {Mutavault} as an extra beater that gets around symmetrical sacrifice effects.
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on January 14, 2014, 08:56:26 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 14, 2014, 07:33:30 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on January 12, 2014, 10:19:11 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 12, 2014, 08:46:51 AM
Quote from: abstractApathist on January 11, 2014, 03:17:15 PM
I don't think {Phyrexian Obliterator} really belongs here, although bob is a nice touch. I would recommend bumping up to 4 {Liliana of the veil} and 4 {ensnaring bridge} in the mainboard in place of the obliterators.

I'll do some play testing. With your suggestions. Though the obliterators are pain  for my opponent and they are I win con.
The main point of 8-rack is that {The rack} and {Shrieking affliction} are your wincon and the deck isn't vulnerable to creature removal.

Did some testing you were right. Thanks for advise. 

+1
Apathist is correct on most things here. Really, if you need help on most decks, go to him or I.
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: abstractApathist on January 14, 2014, 09:12:14 PM
Thanks a lot, guys! Just trying to help out :)
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on January 15, 2014, 02:11:08 AM
Quote from: ConanEdo on January 14, 2014, 11:56:22 PM
Quote from: Lyriczulu on January 14, 2014, 08:39:38 PM
Have you tried running a version without {Ensnaring Bridge}? I've been doing a fair amount of reading about this deck for modern and legacy and it seems that if you want to get the most out of using creatures (ie Bob) its better to not have the bridge since you can't really attack.

Instead you use more removal spells like {Darkblast}, {Victim of Night} or {Dismember}. Also, if you do go that plan, you can add {Mutavault} as an extra beater that gets around symmetrical sacrifice effects.
Bob is there to gain card advantage, that's it. She wins with rack effects.

Pretty much this. Having creatures does help as a back up, but it is relatively hard to deal with threats and things when you have to rely on the top deck.
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 15, 2014, 07:27:03 AM
I really like this deck. It's also pretty cheap with the exception of {Liliana of the Veil} and {Dark Confidant}, but both of those are Modern staples, so it's not like you'll never use the cards again.
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 15, 2014, 04:10:56 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 15, 2014, 07:27:03 AM
I really like this deck. It's also pretty cheap with the exception of {Liliana of the Veil} and {Dark Confidant}, but both of those are Modern staples, so it's not like you'll never use the cards again.

I borrow thoses cards atm. Thought over next few months should have a play set of both :)
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 15, 2014, 06:14:18 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 15, 2014, 04:10:56 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 15, 2014, 07:27:03 AM
I really like this deck. It's also pretty cheap with the exception of {Liliana of the Veil} and {Dark Confidant}, but both of those are Modern staples, so it's not like you'll never use the cards again.

I borrow thoses cards atm. Thought over next few months should have a play set of both :)
I'm thinking of slapping this together, proxy the pricey cards, and if I like it, possibly invest in the deck.
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 15, 2014, 06:49:35 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 15, 2014, 06:14:18 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 15, 2014, 04:10:56 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 15, 2014, 07:27:03 AM
I really like this deck. It's also pretty cheap with the exception of {Liliana of the Veil} and {Dark Confidant}, but both of those are Modern staples, so it's not like you'll never use the cards again.

I borrow thoses cards atm. Thought over next few months should have a play set of both :)
I'm thinking of slapping this together, proxy the pricey cards, and if I like it, possibly invest in the deck.

I'm going to be taking this to every moderm Tournament I can.

Glad you like it
Just need to get;
4 Bob,
4 Lilly,
2 bridges
3 Inquisitio
1 damnation
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 26, 2014, 08:51:27 PM
Made some changes to sideboard and landbase.
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: abstractApathist on January 27, 2014, 10:38:17 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 26, 2014, 08:51:27 PM
Made some changes to sideboard and landbase.
Unless tokens is in your meta, {Illness in the Ranks} is terrible. Also, what is {Vampire Hexmage} for? I'd swap them out for more {Torpor Orb} and {Pithing Needle} since they bring so many decks to a full stop.
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 27, 2014, 12:10:09 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on January 27, 2014, 10:38:17 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 26, 2014, 08:51:27 PM
Made some changes to sideboard and landbase.
Unless tokens is in your meta, {Illness in the Ranks} is terrible. Also, what is {Vampire Hexmage} for? I'd swap them out for more {Torpor Orb} and {Pithing Needle} since they bring so many decks to a full stop.
In my meta there some B/W tokens.

The {vampire hexmage} is for anti Planeswalkers.
Would run {hero's downfall} but to expensive.
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: abstractApathist on January 27, 2014, 01:31:17 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 27, 2014, 12:10:09 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on January 27, 2014, 10:38:17 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 26, 2014, 08:51:27 PM
Made some changes to sideboard and landbase.
Unless tokens is in your meta, {Illness in the Ranks} is terrible. Also, what is {Vampire Hexmage} for? I'd swap them out for more {Torpor Orb} and {Pithing Needle} since they bring so many decks to a full stop.
In my meta there some B/W tokens.

The {vampire hexmage} is for anti Planeswalkers.
Would run {hero's downfall} but to expensive.
{Pithing Needle} stops planeswalkers much more effectively.
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 27, 2014, 01:40:32 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on January 27, 2014, 01:31:17 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 27, 2014, 12:10:09 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on January 27, 2014, 10:38:17 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 26, 2014, 08:51:27 PM
Made some changes to sideboard and landbase.
Unless tokens is in your meta, {Illness in the Ranks} is terrible. Also, what is {Vampire Hexmage} for? I'd swap them out for more {Torpor Orb} and {Pithing Needle} since they bring so many decks to a full stop.
In my meta there some B/W tokens.

The {vampire hexmage} is for anti Planeswalkers.
Would run {hero's downfall} but to expensive.
{Pithing Needle} stops planeswalkers much more effectively.
I'll add more in for some decktests.
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: Teysa karlov on January 27, 2014, 05:54:40 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on January 27, 2014, 05:30:24 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov link=topic=32920.msg320260#msg320260  date=1390848032
Quote from: abstractApathist on January 27, 2014, 01:31:17 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 27, 2014, 12:10:09 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on January 27, 2014, 10:38:17 AM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on January 26, 2014, 08:51:27 PM
Made some changes to sideboard and landbase.
Unless tokens is in your meta, {Illness in the Ranks} is terrible. Also, what is {Vampire Hexmage} for? I'd swap them out for more {Torpor Orb} and {Pithing Needle} since they bring so many decks to a full stop.
In my meta there some B/W tokens.

The {vampire hexmage} is for anti Planeswalkers.
Would run {hero's downfall} but to expensive.
{Pithing Needle} stops planeswalkers much more effectively.
I'll add more in for some decktests.
That or splash green for {Maelstrom Pulse} and {Abrupt Decay} if you're really worried. Both are more versatile than Hexmage.
{Abrupt decay} does not get Karn, as Tron is big atm and {Maelstrom Pulse} is CMC 3 which I'm trying to get cut down on
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: Teysa karlov on February 08, 2014, 05:10:58 PM
Can't wait for M15 so I can add in {Waste Not}
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: Spencer Addington on February 24, 2014, 09:41:10 AM
I love this deck!
Title: Re: Smallpox.
Post by: Teysa karlov on February 24, 2014, 10:10:17 AM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on February 24, 2014, 09:41:10 AM
I love this deck!

Thank you. It fun to run. But a pain to face lol