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Title: Reverberate and Counterspells
Post by: ibtrickey on January 09, 2014, 03:30:06 PM
 {Reverberate}
So you could {Negate} a negate with reverberate? Correct.
Title: Re: Reverberate
Post by: Kaworu, the Fifth Child on January 09, 2014, 03:35:29 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Reverberate
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on January 09, 2014, 06:56:49 PM
Just about the only thing you CAN'T {reverberate} is a {last word}

Correction : if last word is the only instant on the stack...
Title: Re: Reverberate
Post by: Pi on January 09, 2014, 07:47:30 PM
Also have to look out for things with split second ex {sudden shock}
Title: Re: Reverberate
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on January 09, 2014, 08:09:19 PM
Why can't you reverberate last word? It only says you can't counter it. Reverberate only copies it.
Title: Re: Reverberate
Post by: Pi on January 09, 2014, 08:19:03 PM
You may copy it, but cannot counter it with the copy because it cannot not be countered
Title: Re: Reverberate
Post by: Anoobass on January 09, 2014, 11:16:32 PM
True, but you can't counter without a target in the first place.
Title: Re: Reverberate
Post by: Pleeb on January 10, 2014, 12:30:37 AM
Split second is the syrup on the stack of pancakes. As long as it's there, you can't do anything. As soon as it resolves you can add to the stack again.
Title: Re: Reverberate
Post by: Giggle the Draco Genius on January 10, 2014, 01:30:27 AM
Quote from: Pleeb on January 10, 2014, 12:30:37 AM
Split second is the syrup on the stack of pancakes. As long as it's there, you can't do anything. As soon as it resolves you can add to the stack again.

This made me laugh harder than it should have
Title: Re: Reverberate
Post by: Skarekrow512 on January 10, 2014, 06:33:52 AM
 {Wild Ricochet}?
Title: Re: Reverberate
Post by: ibtrickey on January 10, 2014, 06:39:59 AM
Quote from: Skarekrow512 on January 10, 2014, 06:33:52 AM
{Wild Ricochet}?
Works sometimes...
I am trying to work a edh with  {Soul Conduit} to where I lower my life and then switch mine with theirs but I need soul conduit to not get countered.. And for soul conduit can you have you life hit zero when you tap the six mana to change life and it kill your opponent? Or no.. Confused with so many cards... I am starting to ask on here because I play with a friend and I am on here for both of us...
Title: Re: Reverberate
Post by: Gorzo on January 10, 2014, 07:12:11 AM
No on the soul conduit at 0 - once your life total hits 0, that's it. You're dead and gone long before you would receive priority again in order to activate the conduit's ability, let alone getting to resolve it.
Title: Re: Reverberate
Post by: ibtrickey on January 10, 2014, 09:16:45 PM
So you have to have at least one life when you tap the 6 mana to tap soul conduit??
Title: Re: Reverberate
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on January 10, 2014, 11:00:41 PM
Have a copy of {reverse the sands} as an alternative so if the conduit gets countered you aren't necessarily screwed.
Title: Re: Reverberate
Post by: Spencer Addington on January 10, 2014, 11:12:02 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on January 10, 2014, 07:12:11 AM
No on the soul conduit at 0 - once your life total hits 0, that's it. You're dead and gone long before you would receive priority again in order to activate the conduit's ability, let alone getting to resolve it.
{Platinum angel}
Title: Re: Reverberate
Post by: Pleeb on January 12, 2014, 01:32:04 AM
Quote from: Taysby on January 11, 2014, 11:40:22 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on January 10, 2014, 07:12:11 AM
No on the soul conduit at 0 - once your life total hits 0, that's it. You're dead and gone long before you would receive priority again in order to activate the conduit's ability, let alone getting to resolve it.

You actually would receive priority before you die.  Now you can't do anything, but still you do receive priority.  (Assuming it's not your opponents priority)

And that syrup analogy was amazing!

116.2d (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=116.2d): State-based actions happen automatically when certain conditions are met. See rule 704. They're dealt with before a player would receive priority. See rule 116.5.

You will lose the game before you receive priority.
Title: Re: Reverberate
Post by: easonej on January 12, 2014, 06:44:32 PM
I was just about to ask this question. Good think I looked first:)