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Title: Kudoltha Goblins
Post by: Leevai420 on January 06, 2014, 01:51:09 AM

Kudoltha Goblins

60 cards, 0 sideboard


4 {Teetering Peaks}
13 {Mountain}

17 lands


4 {Signal Pest}
3 {Legion Loyalist}
4 {Goblin Bushwhacker}
3 {Goblin Guide}
4 {Ornithopter}
4 {Memnite}
2 {Goblin Wardriver}

24 creatures


4 {Kuldotha Rebirth}
4 {Galvanic Blast}
4 {Goblin Grenade}
3 {Shrapnel Blast}
4 {Lightning Bolt}

19 other spells


Sideboard
Title: Re: Kudoltha Goblins
Post by: Leevai420 on January 06, 2014, 01:52:39 AM
Budget::: aggro with small creatures first 3-4 turns then finish off with big damage spells. Decks runs smoothly, looking for sideboard input or upgrades within the deck.
Title: Re: Kudoltha Goblins
Post by: Joshnoodles on January 06, 2014, 09:12:58 AM
I feel like galvanic doesn't hits it's metalcraft very often. Try adding one more good artifact that can easily be sacked off like  {Ichor Wellspring} or something along those lines.
Title: Re: Kudoltha Goblins
Post by: ihasfrozen on January 06, 2014, 10:50:21 AM
{Contested War Zone} seems good for this.
Title: Re: Kudoltha Goblins
Post by: Nanocarter23 on January 06, 2014, 03:40:35 PM
I would throw in {lava spike}
Title: Re: Kudoltha Goblins
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on January 06, 2014, 03:55:45 PM
I feel like Goblin Tribal would be better than this version.
Title: Re: Kudoltha Goblins
Post by: Leevai420 on January 06, 2014, 06:29:11 PM
Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on January 06, 2014, 03:55:45 PM
I feel like Goblin Tribal would be better than this version.

I've actually consistantly beaten the legacy goblin deck. Only changes I made was added artifact lands in place of 4 mountains.

Looking for SB help mostly here.
Title: Re: Kudoltha Goblins
Post by: abstractApathist on January 06, 2014, 07:41:59 PM
Quote from: Leevai420 on January 06, 2014, 06:29:11 PM
Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on January 06, 2014, 03:55:45 PM
I feel like Goblin Tribal would be better than this version.

I've actually consistantly beaten the legacy goblin deck. Only changes I made was added artifact lands in place of 4 mountains.

Looking for SB help mostly here.
This is modern, not legacy. There isn't any goblin-type deck that really works well against the modern meta, nor is there one in the modern meta, so I wouldn't base this deck's potential off of that.
Title: Re: Kudoltha Goblins
Post by: Leevai420 on January 07, 2014, 12:44:45 AM
Quote from: abstractApathist on January 06, 2014, 07:41:59 PM
Quote from: Leevai420 on January 06, 2014, 06:29:11 PM
Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on January 06, 2014, 03:55:45 PM
I feel like Goblin Tribal would be better than this version.

I've actually consistantly beaten the legacy goblin deck. Only changes I made was added artifact lands in place of 4 mountains.

Looking for SB help mostly here.
This is modern, not legacy. There isn't any goblin-type deck that really works well against the modern meta, nor is there one in the modern meta, so I wouldn't base this deck's potential off of that.

Considering that legacy is the superior format I'd say it does hold weight.
Title: Re: Kudoltha Goblins
Post by: ihasfrozen on January 07, 2014, 09:38:42 AM
Quote from: ConanEdo on January 07, 2014, 01:10:05 AM
Quote from: Leevai420 on January 07, 2014, 12:44:45 AM
Quote from: abstractApathist on January 06, 2014, 07:41:59 PM
Quote from: Leevai420 on January 06, 2014, 06:29:11 PM
Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on January 06, 2014, 03:55:45 PM
I feel like Goblin Tribal would be better than this version.

I've actually consistantly beaten the legacy goblin deck. Only changes I made was added artifact lands in place of 4 mountains.

Looking for SB help mostly here.
This is modern, not legacy. There isn't any goblin-type deck that really works well against the modern meta, nor is there one in the modern meta, so I wouldn't base this deck's potential off of that.

Considering that legacy is the superior format I'd say it does hold weight.
Legacy is also an inbred mess...

Not sure if that's a shot at legacy, if so, bah humbug.

As for the merits of this deck beating legacy goblins, that has nothing to do with modern, and doesn't make the deck a great modern or legacy deck (it may be neither, but it certainly is not good in legacy). If you want to post about legacy decks/matchups, do it in the legacy section.

As the person a few posts above said, this deck is positioned well against a deck that doesn't exist in modern, and is trying to do more or less what affinity wants to do, win fast. Only upside I see with this over affinity is that it's less susceptible to some of the hate that wrecks affinity, though {Pyroclasm} effects would still give this deck fits.
Title: Re: Kudoltha Goblins
Post by: Leevai420 on January 07, 2014, 11:27:25 AM
Thanks for all the help. Instead of shitting on my deck list how about I get some damn input on how to make it better.

You say pyroclasm shuts down my deck, how about u recommend a sideboard card instead of being an .rearexit. about it. You guys are doin a great job making the community .poo. by dumping on people that are trying to make a hybrid/ rogue deck.
  Atleast I'm not net decking like everyone else that plays this game.  If it wasn't for the pro tour deck lists being posted on the Internet half u noobs would have no idea what makes a good card.  I'm done with this forum. Have fun making 20 diff tron variants.

Title: Re: Kudoltha Goblins
Post by: Kaworu, the Fifth Child on January 07, 2014, 11:35:17 AM
Quote from: Leevai420 on January 07, 2014, 11:27:25 AM
Thanks for all the help. Instead of cencored on my deck list how about I get some damn input on how to make it better.

You say pyroclasm shuts down my deck, how about u recommend a sideboard card instead of being an .rearexit. about it. You guys are doin a great job making the community .poo. by dumping on people that are trying to make a hybrid/ rogue deck.
  Atleast I'm not net decking like everyone else that plays this game.  If it wasn't for the pro tour deck lists being posted on the Internet half u noobs would have no idea what makes a good card.  I'm done with this forum. Have fun making 20 diff tron variants.
Okay, calm down, dude. They were saying that certain cards work well against your deck, which probably means, "have a sideboard plan against it." Don't get mad.
Secondly. None of the people that commented here are noobs. Deathly foiend is one of the farthest people from noobs on this app.
They're not making the community bad, they're making it better.
They're telling you what they think. They don't think this will hold it's own in Modern, so scrap it, because it would fail. I'm assuming they're spikes :P but you might be too. That's their way of helping.
Finally, watch the language. This app is PG-9 unless stated directly otherwise. I'm not a mod but I can still tell you to be appropriate.
Title: Re: Kudoltha Goblins
Post by: Leevai420 on January 07, 2014, 12:47:27 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on January 07, 2014, 12:02:21 PM
Also, on a more general note, Mishra pointed out, the job of this forum is to help make competitive decks. While we can appreciate you stating you're on a budget, if the concept isn't working, a sideboard isn't going to help. Take every bit of advice with a grain of salt and see if you like any of the suggestions.

The concept does work tho. This is a very aggressive deck that attacks turn 1-3 then finishes off with high dmg burn spells.  Legacy affinity isn't very diff from modern, and I have no problems winning before or on turn 4.

Thank you for the SB input. I appreciate it.
Ill be playing in a tournament on sat. So ill post how it goes.
Title: Re: Kudoltha Goblins
Post by: ihasfrozen on January 07, 2014, 08:41:06 PM
Some decks run {Combust} for the Splinter Twin matchup (or that's what it seems like it would be for, though it would also be useful against the Mono blue Delver deck that Woo is playing, as well as Fish). 

{Pithing Needle} is another catch-all kind of card.

{Goblin Chieftain} would be an awesome finisher as a 1-of in the main, but it probably is too high CMC to add. You could run  {Simian Spirit Guide} to accelerate.

I'm just going on what I see from (could have some more SB/MD choices):
https://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/deck/779

forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=479132