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Title: Corpse jack pain in butt
Post by: Jer123amy on January 04, 2014, 03:38:51 PM
I run red and black standard. How can I deal with corpse jack menace when silly thing regenerates with one black. Any way to get rid of. Please help!! Pain in the posterior.
Title: Re: Corpse jack pain in butt
Post by: Mattao19 on January 04, 2014, 03:44:22 PM
Be patient lol
Title: Re: Corpse jack pain in butt
Post by: Jer123amy on January 04, 2014, 03:47:37 PM
Lol, need a if you play corpse jack you lose card.
Title: Re: Corpse jack pain in butt
Post by: Mattao19 on January 04, 2014, 03:54:46 PM
There's always {Thoughtseize}
Title: Re: Corpse jack pain in butt
Post by: Giggle the Draco Genius on January 04, 2014, 04:23:41 PM
If it is the only creature, {devour flesh} could get you there

Another thing you could do is run {grisly spectacle} it won't kill it but if it is big they will still mill lots of cards
Title: Re: Corpse jack pain in butt
Post by: Deathstorm on January 04, 2014, 04:26:02 PM
For one {corpsejack menace} doesn't regenerate I think you might be talking about {lolteth troll}
Title: Re: Corpse jack pain in butt
Post by: Pleeb on January 04, 2014, 07:18:06 PM
To bypass regeneration, use something that doesn't destroy the target. {annihilating fire} causes a replacement effect when a creature would otherwise go to the GY, so the creature can't be regenerated.

Other effects that prevent regeneration are unsummon, exile, sacrifice and bury.
Title: Re: Corpse jack pain in butt
Post by: rarehuntertay on January 04, 2014, 08:25:47 PM
Also, annihilating fire doesn't stop regeneration. Regeneration takes place on the battlefield, not in the grave...
Title: Re: Corpse jack pain in butt
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on January 04, 2014, 08:34:11 PM
Like {incinerate}
Title: Re: Corpse jack pain in butt
Post by: Pi on January 04, 2014, 09:29:24 PM
That is when you quit life and {world fire}
Title: Re: Corpse jack pain in butt
Post by: Jer123amy on January 04, 2014, 10:46:50 PM
Death storm you are correct. My bad everyone sorry is the stupid troll.  Found slaughter games. Bring it on now.
Title: Re: Corpse jack pain in butt
Post by: MuggyWuggy on January 04, 2014, 11:50:10 PM
Devour flesh is your homie if they have only him
Title: Re: Corpse jack pain in butt
Post by: Jer123amy on January 05, 2014, 12:50:15 AM
Can't sac'ed creature be regenerated?
Title: Re: Corpse jack pain in butt
Post by: Mattao19 on January 05, 2014, 12:54:07 AM
Quote from: Jer123amy on January 05, 2014, 12:50:15 AM
Can't sac'ed creature be regenerated?

Nope sacced creatures cannot be regenerated ;)
Title: Re: Corpse jack pain in butt
Post by: Jer123amy on January 05, 2014, 01:25:32 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: Corpse jack pain in butt
Post by: Pleeb on January 05, 2014, 11:13:18 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on January 04, 2014, 08:25:47 PM
Also, annihilating fire doesn't stop regeneration. Regeneration takes place on the battlefield, not in the grave...

701.12c (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=701.12c): Neither activating an ability that creates a regeneration shield nor casting a spell that creates a regeneration shield is the same as regenerating a permanent. Effects that say that a permanent can't be regenerated don't prevent such abilities from being activated or such spells from being cast; rather, they prevent regeneration shields from having any effect.

Regenerat doesn't have any affect until a creature is destroyed, and annilating fire creates a replacement effect for destruction. A creature that isn't destroyed can't be regenerated.
Title: Re: Corpse jack pain in butt
Post by: abstractApathist on January 05, 2014, 12:26:58 PM
Quote from: Pleeb on January 05, 2014, 11:13:18 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on January 04, 2014, 08:25:47 PM
Also, annihilating fire doesn't stop regeneration. Regeneration takes place on the battlefield, not in the grave...

701.12c (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=701.12c): Neither activating an ability that creates a regeneration shield nor casting a spell that creates a regeneration shield is the same as regenerating a permanent. Effects that say that a permanent can't be regenerated don't prevent such abilities from being activated or such spells from being cast; rather, they prevent regeneration shields from having any effect.

Regenerat doesn't have any affect until a creature is destroyed, and annilating fire creates a replacement effect for destruction. A creature that isn't destroyed can't be regenerated.
It says if it would be put into a graveyard, that it's exiled, which it isn't. It has to be destroyed (pr put in a graveyard someway) for annihilating fire to exile it.
Title: Re: Corpse jack pain in butt
Post by: Pleeb on January 05, 2014, 12:38:19 PM

Rulings
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10/1/2012   The creature can still regenerate.
10/1/2012   A creature dealt damage by Annihilating Fire that dies this turn will be exiled even if it wasn't the target of Annihilating Fire (say, because the damage was redirected somehow).
10/1/2012   A creature dealt damage by Annihilating Fire will be exiled no matter why the creature would die. It could be destroyed by another spell or ability.

Rulings on annihilating fire. I stand corrected.