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Title: Modern Affinity ... Weak?
Post by: Mattao19 on January 04, 2014, 02:36:19 AM
I've looked at a bunch of deck lists and it just seems so weak ... What the point of the deck? Just to get out a bunch of creatures/artifacts and swing with a {Cranial Plating}?? If so .. It seems sooo weak like any removal DESTROYS IT!!
Title: Re: Modern Affinity ... Weak?
Post by: Mattao19 on January 04, 2014, 02:36:44 AM
Obviously I'm missing something so somebody please explain it to me
Title: Re: Modern Affinity ... Weak?
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on January 04, 2014, 02:45:29 AM
Some decks use {etched champion} as a beater.

Removal isn't a problem due to {archbound ravenger}. It can sac whatever is being targeted in response, and itself to give away the +1/+1 counters.
Title: Re: Modern Affinity ... Weak?
Post by: Mattao19 on January 04, 2014, 02:49:30 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on January 04, 2014, 02:45:29 AM
Some decks use {etched champion} as a beater.

Removal isn't a problem due to {archbound ravenger}. It can sac whatever is being targeted in response, and itself to give away the +1/+1 counters.

True etched champion is good but I still feel like its weak. The ravager wouldn't last more than a turn and in doing so it could only give out 2-3 counters to another creature but then again Etched Champion is good bc it'll always be turned on. what's a way to stop it?
Title: Re: Modern Affinity ... Weak?
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on January 04, 2014, 02:51:31 AM
I like using {Creeping Corrosion} in my homebrew.  Or just have a general board wipe on hand.  But {Stony Silence} tends to do the trick.
Title: Re: Modern Affinity ... Weak?
Post by: Mattao19 on January 04, 2014, 02:53:44 AM
Ok cool I'm planning on going Esper in Modern so {Stony Silence} will be a SB card for me or should it be mb bc Pod and other decks still rely on artifacts
Title: Re: Modern Affinity ... Weak?
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on January 04, 2014, 02:58:35 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on January 04, 2014, 02:53:44 AM
Ok cool I'm planning on going Esper in Modern so {Stony Silence} will be a SB card for me or should it be mb bc Pod and other decks still rely on artifacts
Yeah, that's cool. 

Now stony doesn't always work, you still have cranial plate to deal with, and and a practically unblockable beater.  So keep those boardwipes handy.

Luckily your taking out its mana base {Mox Opal} this way, so that should help a lot.  Good luck in modern man :)
Title: Re: Modern Affinity ... Weak?
Post by: Mattao19 on January 04, 2014, 03:01:00 AM
Thanks for your help!! :P

Aren't Equipment costs activated abilities?

Also I'm going Esper so ill have my verdicts in had and waiting!! Also D Spheres for that stupid Cranial Plating!!
Title: Re: Modern Affinity ... Weak?
Post by: Vileo on January 04, 2014, 04:30:20 AM
Don't forget about {Kataki, War's Wage}. Super good sideboard card against Affinity as well.
Title: Re: Modern Affinity ... Weak?
Post by: Gorzo on January 04, 2014, 06:56:07 AM
Affinity may not look too tough at first glance, but don't underestimate it. Affinity is FAST. Even in a format as fast as modern, Affinity makes it's name by outpacing its environment. It can potentially drop it's whole hand on turn one or two.
Title: Re: Modern Affinity ... Weak?
Post by: imthelolrus on January 04, 2014, 11:11:15 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on January 04, 2014, 06:56:07 AM
Affinity may not look too tough at first glance, but don't underestimate it. Affinity is FAST. Even in a format as fast as modern, Affinity makes it's name by outpacing its environment. It can potentially drop it's whole hand on turn one or two.
This, with the right hand I can empty most/all of my hand and cast a T1  {Steel Overseer} or  {Arcbound Ravager}. Now {Stony Silence} is easily the biggest problem from Affinity's perspective. It shuts off opals, citadels, etc.

The thing about affinity that I think separates it from other Aggro decks in modern is its flexibility. I can produce colored mana to main board a white spell, and galvanic blast and could side in blue spells and black spells and not have any serious repercussions.

Don't underestimate affinity! It's been in modern for a very long time and the list hasn't changed that much. (I still run a modified list of an old version because plating is the best card in the deck and  {Steelshaper's Gift} acts as a slower 5th copy)
Title: Re: Modern Affinity ... Weak?
Post by: ihasfrozen on January 04, 2014, 11:17:28 AM
Affinity has a great Game 1 matchup most of the time, the issue is that it is so fun to hate on ({Stony Silence}, {Pyroclasm}, (Ancient Grudge}, {Shatterstorm}, etc.), and decks that are packed with removal only have to care about {Etched Champion}.

It lives and dies by how much hate people pack for it (like dredge).
Title: Re: Modern Affinity ... Weak?
Post by: Silent1236 on January 04, 2014, 12:17:50 PM
Gorzo hit the nail on the head. {Inkmoth Nexus} + {Cranial Plating} for 8 on turn two?  Seems good :P
Title: Re: Modern Affinity ... Weak?
Post by: Kaworu, the Fifth Child on January 04, 2014, 01:52:00 PM
Pretty weak to {Hurkyls Recall} :P
Title: Re: Modern Affinity ... Weak?
Post by: Ertai on January 04, 2014, 01:59:56 PM
Pretty much any mass removal kills this deck.

For example. {Wrath of God} is not so nice.

I think {Etched Champion} is good to some extent. It's very weak against mass removal, so there are many ways to deal with it.

Other than that, I love affinity, I play it often. I play Vintage artifacts, so I can play my {Tolarian Academy}.
Title: Re: Modern Affinity ... Weak?
Post by: Mattao19 on January 04, 2014, 02:08:38 PM
Quote from: Ertai on January 04, 2014, 01:59:56 PM
Pretty much any mass removal kills this deck.

For example. {Wrath of God} is not so nice.

I think {Etched Champion} is good to some extent. It's very weak against mass removal, so there are many ways to deal with it.

Other than that, I love affinity, I play it often. I play Vintage artifacts, so I can play my {Tolarian Academy}.

Lol you're obsessed with that card! And thanks guys ill look into what I need to board against it!!
Title: Re: Modern Affinity ... Weak?
Post by: Ertai on January 04, 2014, 02:11:31 PM
I tend to throw some {Counterspell} in the deck to stop mass removal. Usually helps a bit.

That is if you splash blue.