If a Planeswalker is fickered can the ability be repeated in the same turn?
A "flickered" planeswalker hits the field as an entirely new card with no memory of its previous self, so as long as it is still your main phase, yes, you can activate it. If it's your end step, no.
So Kiora in a modern Bant flicker is going to be a ramp never seen since the Lotus cause think of the {U} that allows cards in hand. Some {flickerwhisps} and {doubling seasons}? Is anyone else seeing this?
Flickerwisp's blink doesn't return the permanent until the end step. Like Double-O says, you won't be able to activate any loyalty abilities of the newly appeared Planeswalker that turn unless it's your main phase, since loyalty abilities are sorcery speed.
Ok flickerwhisp is a horrible example. However there are plenty of W and U cards that do immediate flickers. The question is playing the -1 redundant or would you get the additional land every time it's played in a turn?
Are there any cards that flicker permanents like {cloud shift}?
So far I've found {flicker} and a possible combo using an {Oblivion Ring} type enchantment plus {Leonin Relic-Warder} to make something happen....
I think this is an interesting question. I think if you -1 her and draw a card and then flicker and do it again you should be able to play 2 additional lands for the turn. I think they tried to clean up the rules on this sort of thing with the latest M14 updates, right? This is the first time a planeswalker has dabbled with extra land drops though so I'm not sure.
I'm sure it falls under the new ruling for {oracle of mul daya}...
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on January 03, 2014, 07:54:17 AM
I'm sure it falls under the new ruling for {oracle of mul daya}...
is the above correct? i would expect that flickering kiora, or playing another one would allow the -1 abilities to stack.
If you found a way to use Kiora's -1 multiples, the extra land/turn would stack. It doesn't work like the Oracle.
The m14 lands/turn rule change works like this:
- you have a pool of (1) land(s) per turn.
- if an effect tells you may play an extra land per turn, add one to that pool.
- if an effect that allows you to play an extra land this turn leaves play, that pool shrinks by one. (This is the new part)
Unlike Mul Daya, who had to leave play (taking her extra land/turn out of the pool with her now), adding additional Kiora triggers to the pool never takes any out, since Kiora herself leaving the battlefield to do so has no impact on her triggers or your lands per turn. It works.
Nice! Thanks for the clarification, Gorzo. You're a lifesaver!