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Title: Epic Emmara
Post by: Galabranth on December 31, 2013, 01:45:56 PM
 {Emmara Tandris}

So I've acquired Emmaras. I'm putting two in my GW Tokens. I'm not sure about her ability though. When it says "prevent damage" does that include combat damage (creature to creature) and instant/sorcery damage (e.g. Red stuff)? Does Emma practically make my tokens Indestructible? Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Epic Emmara
Post by: lotrwk on December 31, 2013, 02:32:45 PM
It prevents damage from things like {Searing spear} and combat damage. It prevents everything that says damage in it, however it doesn't make them indestructible. They are still vulnerable to things like {Murder} that say destroy, and things like {Mutilate} that make their toughness 0.
Title: Re: Epic Emmara
Post by: Ekann1 on December 31, 2013, 02:52:21 PM
Quote from: CrackaLacka on December 31, 2013, 02:32:45 PM
It prevents damage from things like {Searing spear} and combat damage. It prevents everything that says damage in it, however it doesn't make them indestructible. They are still vulnerable to things like {Murder} that say destroy, and things like {Mutilate} that make their toughness 0.

why is why, in my opinion, emmara isn't very great. stuff like {supreme verdict} still destroys everything.
Title: Re: Epic Emmara
Post by: Pi on December 31, 2013, 02:56:58 PM
Find a way to make a token copy of her. Like.{rite of replication} then damage is prevented for her too. So no one can burn her then blow up the tokens
Title: Re: Epic Emmara
Post by: lotrwk on December 31, 2013, 02:57:19 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on December 31, 2013, 02:52:21 PM
Quote from: CrackaLacka on December 31, 2013, 02:32:45 PM
It prevents damage from things like {Searing spear} and combat damage. It prevents everything that says damage in it, however it doesn't make them indestructible. They are still vulnerable to things like {Murder} that say destroy, and things like {Mutilate} that make their toughness 0.

why is why, in my opinion, emmara isn't very great. stuff like {supreme verdict} still destroys everything.
Emmara is horrid. Too high CMC, lacklustre effect, doesn't even give herself her own effect. Even in limited, she is only decent because of her high P/T, which I don't really understand. I mean, varolz is a giant troll with a club, and he is a 2/2, whereas Emmara is but a simple elf, and she more than doubles Varolz's P/T!
Title: Re: Epic Emmara
Post by: lotrwk on December 31, 2013, 02:57:55 PM
Quote from: Pi on December 31, 2013, 02:56:58 PM
Find a way to make a token copy of her. Like.{rite of replication} then damage is prevented for her too. So no one can burn her then blow up the tokens
They can still verdict...
Title: Re: Epic Emmara
Post by: Kaleo42 on December 31, 2013, 03:41:37 PM
Quote from: CrackaLacka on December 31, 2013, 02:57:19 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on December 31, 2013, 02:52:21 PM
Quote from: CrackaLacka on December 31, 2013, 02:32:45 PM
It prevents damage from things like {Searing spear} and combat damage. It prevents everything that says damage in it, however it doesn't make them indestructible. They are still vulnerable to things like {Murder} that say destroy, and things like {Mutilate} that make their toughness 0.

why is why, in my opinion, emmara isn't very great. stuff like {supreme verdict} still destroys everything.
Emmara is horrid. Too high CMC, lacklustre effect, doesn't even give herself her own effect. Even in limited, she is only decent because of her high P/T, which I don't really understand. I mean, varolz is a giant troll with a club, and he is a 2/2, whereas Emmara is but a simple elf, and she more than doubles Varolz's P/T!
He starts small and gets big by scavenging.
Title: Re: Epic Emmara
Post by: lotrwk on December 31, 2013, 04:05:37 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 31, 2013, 03:41:37 PM
Quote from: CrackaLacka on December 31, 2013, 02:57:19 PM
Quote from: E.kann1 on December 31, 2013, 02:52:21 PM
Quote from: CrackaLacka on December 31, 2013, 02:32:45 PM
It prevents damage from things like {Searing spear} and combat damage. It prevents everything that says damage in it, however it doesn't make them indestructible. They are still vulnerable to things like {Murder} that say destroy, and things like {Mutilate} that make their toughness 0.

why is why, in my opinion, emmara isn't very great. stuff like {supreme verdict} still destroys everything.
Emmara is horrid. Too high CMC, lacklustre effect, doesn't even give herself her own effect. Even in limited, she is only decent because of her high P/T, which I don't really understand. I mean, varolz is a giant troll with a club, and he is a 2/2, whereas Emmara is but a simple elf, and she more than doubles Varolz's P/T!
He starts small and gets big by scavenging.
I know that, I'm talking about for flavour. Varolz gets way bigger in-game, but out of game, a troll vs an elf. Who would you think would have higher P/T?
Title: Re: Epic Emmara
Post by: MuggyWuggy on December 31, 2013, 04:11:44 PM
Emma was clearly made for EDH

Lets just clear that up right meow
Title: Re: Epic Emmara
Post by: MuggyWuggy on December 31, 2013, 04:12:19 PM
But you can always skullcrack a player then do a star storm to wipe their tokens :)
Title: Re: Epic Emmara
Post by: particle on December 31, 2013, 05:57:55 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on December 31, 2013, 03:40:16 PM
They can always verdict...

unless you {silence} them.
Title: Re: Epic Emmara
Post by: Galabranth on December 31, 2013, 10:59:50 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on December 31, 2013, 06:40:53 PM
The moral of the story? Don't run Emmara XD

Seems like the majority would prefer not putting Emmaras. What should I use to replace her then? I never took into account sweepers. Too much {Supreme Verdict} mates.
Title: Re: Epic Emmara
Post by: Anoobass on January 01, 2014, 01:30:32 AM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on December 31, 2013, 04:11:44 PM
Emma was clearly made for EDH

Lets just clear that up right meow

I'm sorry, did you just say meow?
Title: Re: Epic Emmara
Post by: Galabranth on January 01, 2014, 01:45:11 AM
Quote from: Anoobass on January 01, 2014, 01:30:32 AM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on December 31, 2013, 04:11:44 PM
Emma was clearly made for EDH

Lets just clear that up right meow

I'm sorry, did you just say meow?

Its the cat inside.
Title: Re: Epic Emmara
Post by: Anoobass on January 01, 2014, 01:46:03 AM
Quote from: Galabranth on January 01, 2014, 01:45:11 AM
Quote from: Anoobass on January 01, 2014, 01:30:32 AM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on December 31, 2013, 04:11:44 PM
Emma was clearly made for EDH

Lets just clear that up right meow

I'm sorry, did you just say meow?

Its the cat inside.

It was a quote from a movie...
Title: Re: Epic Emmara
Post by: Galabranth on January 01, 2014, 01:57:03 AM
Quote from: Anoobass on January 01, 2014, 01:46:03 AM
Quote from: Galabranth on January 01, 2014, 01:45:11 AM
Quote from: Anoobass on January 01, 2014, 01:30:32 AM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on December 31, 2013, 04:11:44 PM
Emma was clearly made for EDH

Lets just clear that up right meow

I'm sorry, did you just say meow?

Its the cat inside.

It was a quote from a movie...

Supah Troopahs meow. They should put more of this stuff in card flavor text...