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Title: Harassment from That_Guy
Post by: ibtrickey on December 23, 2013, 12:25:51 PM
Accused is that_guy.
Accusation: bullying and harassment.
Evidence: hacking my threads and continually putting negative comments when not called for.
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Spencer Addington on December 23, 2013, 12:40:31 PM
Really dude?... Really?
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Moneekahh on December 23, 2013, 12:40:50 PM
Which threads did this occur on? Maybe you can post quotes here as evidence
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Spencer Addington on December 23, 2013, 12:41:48 PM
Quote from: Moneekahh on December 23, 2013, 12:40:50 PM
Which threads did this occur on? Maybe you can post quotes here as evidence
It wad his karma giveaway and unopened thoughtsieze deck trade thing in the trading section.
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: ibtrickey on December 23, 2013, 01:09:07 PM
Mind seize decks.
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: ibtrickey on December 23, 2013, 01:12:28 PM
Taysby
User 81
...
Today at 10:42:53 AM
No.  We will harass you and thread jack all of your threads.  MWAH ha ha.

Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: ibtrickey on December 23, 2013, 01:13:54 PM
That_Guy
User 4
...
Today at 10:46:11 AM
somebody is chucking a bit of a tantrum.
On a side note my name jack, the thread jacker, you will not see me coming until i strike and even then it will be too late. Consider this thread... Jacked


Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Moneekahh on December 23, 2013, 01:13:59 PM
Well, iMtG law states "Do not treat others as they would not want to be treated." So, if accusations of harassment are true, the accused are indeed breaking the law. But, from what I read in the thread, I'm not sure I would consider any of it to be harassment.
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: ibtrickey on December 23, 2013, 01:19:58 PM
They continue to message on my threads after I ask for people to stay on topic. And they both said they will hack my threads. That is harassment if I am targeted.
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Spencer Addington on December 23, 2013, 01:36:14 PM
I was present for both topics and they were both(from my pov) joking. They should have stopped when asked, but from what I've read, you didn't say anything to that point. You just said stay on topic. If I am mistaken, I apologize.
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: ibtrickey on December 23, 2013, 01:47:00 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on December 23, 2013, 01:36:14 PM
I was present for both topics and they were both(from my pov) joking. They should have stopped when asked, but from what I've read, you didn't say anything to that point. You just said stay on topic. If I am mistaken, I apologize.

You also went off topic too. I do not post threads for jokes to be made on them. I post threads usually to trade.. That is why I am here.
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Mikefrompluto on December 23, 2013, 01:53:09 PM
While the trade section is indeed for trading and i can imagine people straying from the topic is annoying, there is also a Ban button that will hide posts from the users. My suggestion is to use it on the accused.
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Ertai on December 23, 2013, 01:53:50 PM
My two cents: I don't speak out much, as reading these are far more entertaining. However, I have seen Taysby on several other occasions troll about the place with his/her condacending attitude.  Before I just thought it fun and games, but from how I've noticed him speak to IBtrickey, does not look like fun and games.

Also, harassment is interpreted by the harassed. If he feels someone is bullying him, he probably is being bullied. There's no "he was joking around". That does not fly.
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Millionlittlee on December 23, 2013, 01:54:07 PM
Calm down. The interwebs is full of jokes. Relax. Where is your Christmas joy
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: ibtrickey on December 23, 2013, 02:00:16 PM
Quote from: Ertai on December 23, 2013, 01:53:50 PM
My two cents: I don't speak out much, as reading these are far more entertaining. However, I have seen Taysby on several other occasions troll about the place with his/her condacending attitude.  Before I just thought it fun and games, but from how I've noticed him speak to IBtrickey, does not look like fun and games.

Also, harassment is interpreted by the harassed. If he feels someone is bullying him, he probably is being bullied. There's no "he was joking around". That does not fly.

Thank you for the comment, one I appreciate:)
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: ibtrickey on December 23, 2013, 02:03:59 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on December 23, 2013, 01:53:09 PM
While the trade section is indeed for trading and i can imagine people straying from the topic is annoying, there is also a Ban button that will hide posts from the users. My suggestion is to use it on the accused.
If I ban them can't they still post on my threads to where others can see?
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Mikefrompluto on December 23, 2013, 02:06:42 PM
Quote from: Ibtrickey on December 23, 2013, 02:03:59 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on December 23, 2013, 01:53:09 PM
While the trade section is indeed for trading and i can imagine people straying from the topic is annoying, there is also a Ban button that will hide posts from the users. My suggestion is to use it on the accused.
If I ban them can't they still post on my threads to where others can see?
Yes.
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Spikepit on December 23, 2013, 02:06:51 PM
I believe that is correct but I could be wrong, I've never banned anyone...
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: ibtrickey on December 23, 2013, 02:31:01 PM
So me banning the two of them from my threads does not solve the problem
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: ibtrickey on December 23, 2013, 02:36:47 PM
And taysby even said they are and will harass me. That is proof
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Mikefrompluto on December 23, 2013, 02:38:26 PM
Quote from: Ibtrickey on December 23, 2013, 02:31:01 PM
So me banning the two of them from my threads does not solve the problem

What would be a suitable solution then?
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: MuggyWuggy on December 23, 2013, 03:48:37 PM
Motion for ignore user options!
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Spikepit on December 23, 2013, 04:07:26 PM
Quote from: Taysby on December 23, 2013, 03:58:45 PM
I apologize.  I didn't know that upset you so much.  Next time just shoot me a pm or something.
👆
Let's take this as a reminder for all users. Please follow the structure of logical and real life report structures wherever possible. Before going straight to the authority, attempt private contact yourself.
Like in a workplace, pull a co-worker aside privately, let them know you do not appreciate their behaviour, remind them again if they ignore your request and if trouble persists, THEN go to authority.

And thank you for apologising publicly Taysby (just don't antagonise as default, or you'll get coal tomorrow).
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Spikepit on December 23, 2013, 04:37:39 PM
Quote from: Taysby on December 23, 2013, 04:23:55 PM
And last point, according to the imtg law, no victim, no crime.  There was no victim yet for that "crime" (that I wasn't even going to commit) so the imtg law can't do anything to me for the things I "said I would do".
Aright, just chill bro. You made your point earlier and gained the upper hand. Don't lose it by taking the aggressor. 👍
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Mlerner12 on December 23, 2013, 04:57:53 PM
Quote from: Taysby on December 23, 2013, 04:23:55 PM
And last point, according to the imtg law, no victim, no crime.  There was no victim yet for that "crime" (that I wasn't even going to commit) so the imtg law can't do anything to me for the things I "said I would do".
I think Ibtrickey and I were both victims, as we were seriously ticked off ;)
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Spikepit on December 23, 2013, 05:14:12 PM
Quote from: Taysby on December 23, 2013, 04:41:05 PMI guess that's something I need to work on, if I feel like I'm in defense mode, I just keep going and going.  Or in attack mode I guess.  Nobody's perfect.  :)
Just don't go Super Sayan 😜 Haha, acknowledgement is the first step. 👍
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: That_Guy on December 23, 2013, 06:08:28 PM
Haha really? Wow thats sad.. somebody really needs to man up.
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: xStrayKnightx on December 23, 2013, 06:18:42 PM
C'mon man, be nice. He's obviously upset about it, and if you had some decency you'd stop before it got out of hand.
That's not to say I agree with a trial being set up over the issue, but I don't think you're right for saying he needs to "man up".

It's antagonistic remarks like that that make more problems around the corner. If you have snide comments about someone, say it out loud, in your head, to a friend, whatever. Just not on here. Arguments and flame wars are not what the community here want.
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: ibtrickey on December 23, 2013, 06:28:05 PM
Because I always have things I can say but I do not
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Silent1236 on December 23, 2013, 06:32:25 PM
Quote from: That_Guy on December 23, 2013, 06:08:28 PM
Haha really? Wow thats sad.. somebody really needs to man up.

There is no reason for this.  Ib sees this as a real problem to him.  If he feels that way, than it is a problem.  Ridiculing him for being open about something that has been getting to him is counterproductive.  It'd be different if you had a real argument here.  Let's try to keep things on task here, ok?  Comments like this just cause more problems than they solve.
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Spencer Addington on December 23, 2013, 08:55:44 PM
It seems most people are easily offended, especially tricky.
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Spikepit on December 23, 2013, 09:04:38 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on December 23, 2013, 08:55:44 PM
It seems most people are easily offended, especially tricky.
Regardless if they are offended easily, moderately or not at all, if they ask you to stop or even to just keep on topic on their own thread, then do so. Period.
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: ibtrickey on December 23, 2013, 09:06:05 PM
I just do not want rude comments or so called "jokes" in my threads. Simple
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Spencer Addington on December 23, 2013, 10:00:20 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on December 23, 2013, 09:04:38 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on December 23, 2013, 08:55:44 PM
It seems most people are easily offended, especially tricky.
Regardless if they are offended easily, moderately or not at all, if they ask you to stop or even to just keep on topic on their own thread, then do so. Period.
And I do...
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: ibtrickey on December 23, 2013, 10:12:10 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on December 23, 2013, 10:00:20 PM
Quote from: Spikepit on December 23, 2013, 09:04:38 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on December 23, 2013, 08:55:44 PM
It seems most people are easily offended, especially tricky.
Regardless if they are offended easily, moderately or not at all, if they ask you to stop or even to just keep on topic on their own thread, then do so. Period.
And I do...

I.e. why you are not in the trial
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: ibtrickey on December 23, 2013, 10:22:00 PM
Quote from: Taysby on December 23, 2013, 10:13:53 PM
Am I clear of getting prosecuted?  Are you proceeding with this trial?  I would kinda like to know what's happening.
Yes I will remove you from the trial but please at least put that jokes are meant as jokes.. I am kind of a serious person and do not take jokes due to being bullied and made fun of so much.
Plus I hate the whole ginger thing.
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Spencer Addington on December 23, 2013, 10:56:33 PM
I'm really sorry to hear you are getting bullied.
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Slenderbro on December 24, 2013, 12:31:25 AM
Oh shoot i'm a redhead too! I know all your feelz
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: That_Guy on December 24, 2013, 03:08:30 AM
Surrounded by soulless peoples 👀
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Spencer Addington on December 24, 2013, 03:14:16 AM
Quote from: That_Guy on December 24, 2013, 03:08:30 AM
Surrounded by soulless peoples 👀
Your karma took a left turn off a cliff lol.
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: That_Guy on December 24, 2013, 03:15:05 AM
Yeah, definitely didnt go RIGHT
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Spencer Addington on December 24, 2013, 03:28:42 AM
Quote from: That_Guy on December 24, 2013, 03:15:05 AM
Yeah, definitely didnt go RIGHT
There's your problem! ;)
Title: Re: Harassment from Taysby and That_Guy
Post by: Wingnut on December 28, 2013, 09:21:39 AM
Quote from: That_Guy on December 23, 2013, 06:08:28 PM
Haha really? Wow thats sad.. somebody really needs to man up.

Not sure your age or work experience, but using this reply in a work environment would be grounds for immediate dismissal. I'm 100% sure that no one had any intentions of actually hurting feelings, but it is the impact that matters and not the intent. Frankly, manning up and sometimes realizing people are simply .loving. around IS the case, but like I said, it's the impact that matters. (This is the "real world law" that is drilled into us at my company yearly to avoid harassment lawsuit which trust me, do happen a lot). I say learn this life lesson now instead of losing your job at some point. Just my .02
Title: Re: Harassment from That_Guy
Post by: Wingnut on December 28, 2013, 09:24:47 AM
Crap, sorry, I didn't actually finish this thread to realize it was about 4 days old and had settled down, my bad. Hopefully not stirring the poo pot.