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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: ApexPredator on December 15, 2013, 08:56:06 PM

Title: nemesis and image
Post by: ApexPredator on December 15, 2013, 08:56:06 PM
Can I have {Phantasmal Image} enter as a copy of an opponents {True-Name Nemesis} since it doesnt target.
Title: Re: nemesis and image
Post by: TheRagingMage on December 15, 2013, 08:58:52 PM
I do not believe so, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: nemesis and image
Post by: TheRagingMage on December 15, 2013, 09:03:40 PM
702.16b (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=702.16b): A permanent or player with protection can't be targeted by spells with the stated quality and can't be targeted by abilities from a source with the stated quality.

I believe the ability does target, even though the ability doesn't say "target creature"

Actually:
114.1d (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=114.1d): A triggered ability is targeted if it identifies something it will affect by using the phrase "target [something]," where the "something" is a phrase that describes an object, player, or zone. The target(s) are chosen as the ability is put on the stack; see rule 603.3d.

So maybe it would work.
Title: Re: nemesis and image
Post by: particle on December 15, 2013, 09:04:44 PM
target means target. not choose.
Title: Re: nemesis and image
Post by: ApexPredator on December 15, 2013, 09:06:19 PM
Quote from: particle on December 15, 2013, 09:04:44 PM
target means target. not choose.
Exactly. you arent actually targeting a creature. it should work.
Title: Re: nemesis and image
Post by: particle on December 15, 2013, 09:09:54 PM
for reference, if you look at gatherer ruling for a card like {ashling, the extinguisher}, it says choose target.
Title: Re: nemesis and image
Post by: Sardok on December 15, 2013, 09:19:04 PM
The very first ruling on {Phantasmal Image}:

9/22/2011   Phantasmal Image's ability doesn't target the chosen creature.
Title: Re: nemesis and image
Post by: Kaleo42 on December 15, 2013, 09:42:39 PM
Quote from: Sardok on December 15, 2013, 09:19:04 PM
The very first ruling on {Phantasmal Image}:

9/22/2011   Phantasmal Image's ability doesn't target the chosen creature.
This^

It works.