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Magic (The Gathering) => Combo Corner => Topic started by: Mutexes on December 15, 2013, 06:39:22 AM

Title: Scam artist
Post by: Mutexes on December 15, 2013, 06:39:22 AM
{Conjured Currency} + {volition reins} or {confiscate}

At the beginning of your upkeep exchange control of conjures currency and get it back while the auras are attached to it.
Title: Re: Scam artist
Post by: TheRagingMage on December 15, 2013, 12:43:23 PM
Quote from: Taysby on December 15, 2013, 11:25:27 AM
That trick will only work once though, then you'd need another enchantment,

Why?
Title: Re: Scam artist
Post by: Destore117 on December 15, 2013, 01:54:40 PM
If you exchange control of currency with the enchantment on it. Wouldn't the enchantment make you keep it?
Title: Re: Scam artist
Post by: DimirOverlord1300 on December 15, 2013, 02:13:42 PM
No the exchange overrides the enchantment
Title: Re: Scam artist
Post by: Mutexes on December 16, 2013, 09:44:47 AM
I'm pretty sure you will gain control of {conjured currency} after you make the exchange. {Confiscate} and {volition reins} gives you control of the enchanted permanent as long as it is enchanted. Even if you made the exchange the game will check to see the owner of the aura thus giving you control again. Exchanging the enchanted permanent does not nullify the effects of the aura.
Title: Re: Scam artist
Post by: Sardok on December 16, 2013, 10:22:16 AM
Quote from: Mutexes on December 16, 2013, 09:44:47 AM
I'm pretty sure you will gain control of {conjured currency} after you make the exchange. {Confiscate} and {volition reins} gives you control of the enchanted permanent as long as it is enchanted. Even if you made the exchange the game will check to see the owner of the aura thus giving you control again. Exchanging the enchanted permanent does not nullify the effects of the aura.

This is incorrect.

Control this way operates on a time stamp i.e. the last action played would override all previous effects. Since the exchange by {Conjured Currency} is the latest exchange in control, both the other two auras will be rendered ineffective.
Title: Re: Scam artist
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on December 16, 2013, 10:57:30 AM
It's the same reason {control magic} is rendered useless on {karona, false god} by the time you get to the next upkeep.
Title: Re: Scam artist
Post by: Mutexes on December 16, 2013, 08:14:16 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on December 16, 2013, 10:57:30 AM
It's the same reason {control magic} is rendered useless on {karona, false god} by the time you get to the next upkeep.

Thank you for providing an actual proof that led to the discovery of the rules after some googling (I wasn't able to find the rules previously). I am indeed wrong about this combo.