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Title: Help meeeee.
Post by: Skyshadow731 on December 14, 2013, 10:52:29 PM
I know Im always asking for help but I need a deck that is cheap and consistent. So please help me.
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: Vileo on December 14, 2013, 11:01:59 PM
If its cheap it isn't consistent. Just my opinion. Otherwise, check out Maze's End. My build has Elspeth and Sphinx's Rev, but it works really well.
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: DylanW18 on December 14, 2013, 11:05:23 PM
Izzet Aggro is cheapish with expensive cards you could add to make it better


4x {Akroan Crusader}
4x {Hidden Strings}
4x {Triton Tactics}
4x {Rakdos Cackler}
4x {Radkos Shred Freak}
4x {Frosturbn Weird}
4x {Cloudfin Raptor}
4x {Titans Strength}
4x {Magma Jet}


Expensive cards are Purphoros, Thassa etc.
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: DylanW18 on December 14, 2013, 11:06:38 PM
Like $10, then Izzet Guildgates and basics
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: Skyshadow731 on December 15, 2013, 12:33:34 AM
Quote from: Vileo on December 14, 2013, 11:01:59 PM
If its cheap it isn't consistent. Just my opinion. Otherwise, check out Maze's End. My build has Elspeth and Sphinx's Rev, but it works really well.

Arent mono colored kinda cheap and consistannt
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: SoshiGanrou on December 15, 2013, 01:38:25 AM
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Arent mono colored kinda cheap and consistannt

Depends on the build to be honest.
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: Vileo on December 15, 2013, 02:36:23 AM
Quote from: SoshiGanrou on December 15, 2013, 01:38:25 AM
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Arent mono colored kinda cheap and consistannt

Depends on the build to be honest.
This. Also depends on the color. I also consider "consistent" to mean "wins against most match ups" rather than "gets what it needs most of the time." Occasionally that's the same thing, but it is an important difference.
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: Jlamb5 on December 15, 2013, 03:09:55 PM
I think you should define "cheap". It's a very subjective term. IMO one of the best, consistent decks that's cheap (by my definition) is mono white. The only expensive card in the deck, which is also replaceable, is {ajani, caller of the pride}. It runs {soldier of the pantheon}, {precinct captain}, {spear of heliod}, {imposing sovereign} as the only rares...at least what I remember off the top of my head. All of which are $2 or less.
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 15, 2013, 03:19:23 PM
Aggro is almost always cheap. Of course, Mono-red devotion has increased the price lately but cheap aggro is still doable. Just get burn spells, things with haste and maybe some pump spells.
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: Prodigy55 on December 15, 2013, 03:32:37 PM
There are a ton of ways to make mono red strong and consistent. One suggestion is {madcap skills}.
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: Raiderrob on December 15, 2013, 04:26:11 PM
White weenie is cheap. There are plenty of standard builds out there. Check out starcitygames or mtg deck builder, you should be able to find a good, cheap mono colored build.
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: lotrwk on December 15, 2013, 09:31:59 PM
Quote from: Jlamb5 on December 15, 2013, 03:09:55 PM
I think you should define "cheap". It's a very subjective term. IMO one of the best, consistent decks that's cheap (by my definition) is mono white. The only expensive card in the deck, which is also replaceable, is {ajani, caller of the pride}. It runs {soldier of the pantheon}, {precinct captain}, {spear of heliod}, {imposing sovereign} as the only rares...at least what I remember off the top of my head. All of which are $2 or less.
This. I play this as my main standard deck right now, and it's hilarious. The only expensive cards are {Ajani, caller of the pride} and {Boros Reckoner}. The reckoners are optional, but they make the deck much much better. Without them, you could maybe round out your curve with {Frontline medic} or as a lesser option, {Fabled hero}. Mono white heroic can also be nice and cheap, and it's a decent deck.
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: Skyshadow731 on December 15, 2013, 11:10:09 PM
Ok. Could I get a deck list to base something off of. I want all types of cheap decks, and cheap is $100-$200 dollars for the whole deck.
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: lotrwk on December 16, 2013, 04:33:29 PM
This is the list that i'm using ATM

Creature (31)
4x {Azorius Arrester}
3x {Boros Reckoner}
4x {Dryad Militant}
4x {Hopeful Eidolon}
4x {Imposing Sovereign}
4x {Judge's Familiar}
4x {Precinct Captain}
4x {Soldier of the Pantheon}

Instant (7)
4x {Brave the Elements}
3x {Silence}

Planeswalker (3)
3x {Ajani, Caller of the Pride}

Land (19)
19x Plains

Sideboard (15)
1x {Ajani, Caller of the Pride}
2x {Banisher Priest}
2x {Gideon, Champion of Justice}
3x {Glare of Heresy}
2x {Heliod, God of the Sun}
1x {Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx}
2x {Plains}
1x {Renounce the Guilds}
1x {Spear of Heliod}
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: Melek the fire on December 16, 2013, 05:06:55 PM
If your willing to spend the 200$ why not just build Owen's Grand Prix mono black deck? I bought the cards I didn't have off tcg, but the deck itself isn't more than 200 if you shop around . And it matches very well against current tier one standard decks.
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: wvEricP on December 16, 2013, 05:18:25 PM
Give us a budget and let's see what we can produce for you. I have a budget sliver deck list, but my definition of budget is different than yours
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: SoshiGanrou on December 16, 2013, 05:18:57 PM
Quote from: Melek the fire on December 16, 2013, 05:06:55 PM
If your willing to spend the 200$ why not just build Owen's Grand Prix mono black deck? I bought the cards I didn't have off tcg, but the deck itself isn't more than 200 if you shop around . And it matches very well against current tier one standard decks.

And mono black can be piloted so many different ways. It switches between control and Aggro quickly. It's a good deck
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: Skyshadow731 on December 16, 2013, 05:40:43 PM
budget would be like 100-150
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: Mlerner12 on December 16, 2013, 06:58:51 PM
RDW.
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: wvEricP on December 16, 2013, 07:39:37 PM
Quote from: Skyshadow731 on December 16, 2013, 05:40:43 PM
budget would be like 100-150

Ok, easy, gimme 10 minutes
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: wvEricP on December 16, 2013, 07:44:33 PM
BANT Slivers
60 cards, 0 sideboard
4 {Breeding Pool}
4 {Temple Garden}
4 {Plains}
4 {Forest}
4 {Temple of Mystery}
4 {Hallowed Fountain}
24 lands


4 {Predatory Sliver}
4 {Megantic Sliver}
4 {Galerider Sliver}
4 {Sentinel Sliver}
4 {Bonescythe Sliver}
4 {Groundshaker Sliver}
24 creatures


4 {Savage Summoning}
4 {Dissolve}
4 {Simic Charm}
12 other spells


Comes in at like 145.50
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: Skyshadow731 on December 17, 2013, 12:20:05 AM
Nice it seems like a solid deck,I'll try it out.
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: wvEricP on December 17, 2013, 07:32:00 AM
If you like it I'll figure a side board out, probably  {Pithing Needle}  {Ratchet Bomb} and some bump spells like  {Giant Growth}
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: JordanCirk on December 17, 2013, 09:32:13 AM
Quote from: wvEricP on December 17, 2013, 07:32:00 AM
If you like it I'll figure a side board out, probably  {Pithing Needle}  {Ratchet Bomb} and some bump spells like  {Giant Growth}
Add some anti-board wipe cards like rootborn defenses too. Also if you're going to run the slivers deck and have any mutavaults already I'd include them in. Ik they arnt really budget, but if you have them already id add them.
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: Skyshadow731 on December 17, 2013, 10:05:16 AM
It's ok, I play tested it a couple times and it did alright, I was also think of maybe a R/B aggro.
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: wvEricP on December 17, 2013, 11:37:48 AM
Quote from: Skyshadow731 on December 17, 2013, 10:05:16 AM
It's ok, I play tested it a couple times and it did alright, I was also think of maybe a R/B aggro.

RB aggro, too easy! Gimme a minute
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: JordanCirk on December 17, 2013, 11:52:21 AM
Quote from: Skyshadow731 on December 17, 2013, 10:05:16 AM
It's ok, I play tested it a couple times and it did alright, I was also think of maybe a R/B aggro.
There's a R/W burn deck that top 8'd the last GP. Here's the list:
Lands
4x {Sacred Foundry}
4x {Temple of Triumph}
4x  {Temple of Silence}
10x Mountain

Creatures:
4x {Young Pyromancer}
4x {Chandra's Phoenix}

Spells:
4x {Chained to the Rocks}
4x {Shock}
4x {Skullcrack}
4x {Magma Jet}
4x {Lightning Strike}
4x {Boros Charm}
4x {Warleader's Helix}
And two other cards I can't think of, I'll come back once I remember :P either way the deck is pretty straight forward and consistant.
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: wvEricP on December 17, 2013, 12:14:09 PM
RB
Lands:
10 {Swamp}
4 {Blood Crypt}
10 {Mountain}

Creatures:
4 {Rakdos Shred-Freak}
4 {Rakdos Cackler}
4 {Ash Zealot}
4 {Spike Jester}

Spells:
4 {Slaughter Games}
4 {Rakdos's Return}
4 {Dreadbore}
4 {Anger of the Gods}
4 {Hero's Downfall}


This is really straight forward and fun, I think it popped in at about 149.50 so, it's right at budget and can be fun to play
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: Skyshadow731 on December 17, 2013, 12:31:21 PM
I like the R/B and the R/W I was wondering if we could build a side board and expensive alternates.

Like for the R/B alternates
{Doom Blade} x4
{Lilliana, of the dark realms}x2
{Desecration demon} x3
{exava, rakdos blood witch} x2
{rakdos, lord of riots} x2
{purphros, god of the forge} or{erebos, god of the dead} x2
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: wvEricP on December 17, 2013, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: Skyshadow731 on December 17, 2013, 12:31:21 PM
I like the R/B and the R/W I was wondering if we could build a side board and expensive alternates.

Like for the R/B alternates
{Doom Blade} x4
{Lilliana, of the dark realms}x2
{Desecration demon} x3
{exava, rakdos blood witch} x2
{rakdos, lord of riots} x2
{purphros, god of the forge} or{erebos, god of the dead} x2

You could drop on the RB one 2 {slaughter games} and 2  {Rakdos's Return} for 4  {Pack Rat} and drop 2 of each basic and add 4  {Mutavault} and make it an aggro RB pack rat deck
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: Skyshadow731 on December 17, 2013, 01:10:28 PM
I would like to avoid rats
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: wvEricP on December 17, 2013, 03:30:08 PM
Okay, well if you want to keep the aggro theme I can work something out
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: Skyshadow731 on December 17, 2013, 03:31:34 PM
Ok.
Title: Re: Help meeeee.
Post by: Skyshadow731 on December 18, 2013, 06:54:58 PM
Yea, I would love to keep it aggro