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Title: Epochrasite question
Post by: Destore117 on December 12, 2013, 09:46:18 PM
 {Epochrasite}
So basically unless they exile this card when it dies it continues to come back again and again with additional counters? Or does it only come back once?
Title: Re: Epochrasite question
Post by: Birdbrain on December 12, 2013, 09:48:49 PM
Quote from: Destore117 on December 12, 2013, 09:46:18 PM
{Epochrasite}
So basically unless they exile this card when it dies it continues to come back again and again with additional counters? Or does it only come back once?
it keeps coming back. But with only three counters whether the + counters, or time counters
Title: Re: Epochrasite question
Post by: Destore117 on December 12, 2013, 09:50:30 PM
Ah. Ok I forgot the counters would fall off. If only I could make them stay >.<
Title: Re: Epochrasite question
Post by: Deathstorm on December 14, 2013, 05:14:16 PM
Just play a {corpsejack menace} and or a {doubling season}
Title: Re: Epochrasite question
Post by: TheRagingMage on December 14, 2013, 10:43:55 PM
Quote from: Deathstorm on December 14, 2013, 05:14:16 PM
Just play a {corpsejack menace} and or a {doubling season}

But {Doubling Season} would also double the suspend counters!
Title: Re: Epochrasite question
Post by: particle on December 14, 2013, 11:37:07 PM
Quote from: Gleemax on December 14, 2013, 10:43:55 PM
Quote from: Deathstorm on December 14, 2013, 05:14:16 PM
Just play a {corpsejack menace} and or a {doubling season}

But {Doubling Season} would also double the suspend counters!

is an exiled card a permanent you control?
Title: Re: Epochrasite question
Post by: TheRagingMage on December 14, 2013, 11:51:39 PM
You're right.  Maybe not.
109.4. (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=109.4.): Only objects on the stack or on the battlefield have a controller. Objects that are neither on the stack nor on the battlefield aren't controlled by any player.
Title: Re: Epochrasite question
Post by: griffin131 on December 15, 2013, 12:03:28 AM
A suspended card is not a permanent, regardless of if you control it.

702.61a (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=702.61a): Suspend is a keyword that represents three abilities. The first is a static ability that functions while the card with suspend is in a player's hand. The second and third are triggered abilities that function in the exile zone. "Suspend N -- [cost]" means "If you could begin to cast this card by putting it onto the stack from your hand, you may pay [cost] and exile it with N time counters on it. This action doesn't use the stack," and "At the beginning of your upkeep, if this card is suspended, remove a time counter from it," and "When the last time counter is removed from this card, if it's exiled, play it without paying its mana cost if able. If you can't, it remains exiled. If you cast a creature spell this way, it gains haste until you lose control of the spell or the permanent it becomes."

It becomes a permanent after you cast it from suspend, meaning it is not one while exiled.