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Title: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: wvEricP on December 10, 2013, 11:27:20 PM
T1 {Thespian's Stage}  {Sol Ring}
T2 {Dark Depths}

Gg
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Mattao19 on December 11, 2013, 12:48:08 AM
Quote from: wvEricP on December 10, 2013, 11:27:20 PM
T1 {Thespian's Stage}  {Sol Ring}
T2 {Dark Depths}

Gg

One of the best legacy combos out there :P also look at {Vampire Hexmage} :P
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Jdogtoocool on December 11, 2013, 08:40:25 AM
Still has summoning sickness. Gotta make the 20/20 on turn 1 or give it haste turn 2.

Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Deathseide on December 11, 2013, 08:49:21 AM
Toss in a {lotus petal} to make it T1.

T1: {lotus petal}, {sol ring},  {Thespian's Stage}, {dark Depths}
Course the only bad point is that as soon as you convert the stage, you have to sac the original depths because of the legends rule...
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Stromack on December 11, 2013, 10:10:38 AM
That's what {grim discovery} is for. Pull dark depths and hexmage back
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Wackaman9001 on December 11, 2013, 10:52:48 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 11, 2013, 08:49:21 AM
Toss in a {lotus petal} to make it T1.

T1: {lotus petal}, {sol ring},  {Thespian's Stage}, {dark Depths}
Course the only bad point is that as soon as you convert the stage, you have to sac the original depths because of the legends rule...
How does that make it T1?
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Mattao19 on December 11, 2013, 10:53:56 AM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on December 11, 2013, 10:52:48 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 11, 2013, 08:49:21 AM
Toss in a {lotus petal} to make it T1.

T1: {lotus petal}, {sol ring},  {Thespian's Stage}, {dark Depths}
Course the only bad point is that as soon as you convert the stage, you have to sac the original depths because of the legends rule...
How does that make it T1?

It can't be T1 unless you have a card that allows you to play 2 lands on T1. If you have a card like that DO TELL lol
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Deathseide on December 11, 2013, 01:47:21 PM
Possible... Bit more complex though.

Swap {sol ring} out for {mana crypt}, add in a second {lotus petal} and an {explore}
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Vileo on December 12, 2013, 02:15:17 AM
Cool story bro. Now sac a creature. =P
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: easonej on December 12, 2013, 04:13:39 AM
Call me slow but what exactly is happening in this combo??
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: rarehuntertay on December 12, 2013, 06:19:22 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 11, 2013, 08:49:21 AM
Toss in a {lotus petal} to make it T1.

T1: {lotus petal}, {sol ring},  {Thespian's Stage}, {dark Depths}
Course the only bad point is that as soon as you convert the stage, you have to sac the original depths because of the legends rule...
Wrong. You have the option of which one to sac due to the new update to the the legendary rule.
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Anoobass on December 12, 2013, 06:56:37 AM
Quote from: easonej on December 12, 2013, 04:13:39 AM
Call me slow but what exactly is happening in this combo??

When thespian stage copies a land, it doesn't copy the counters on it.  So as soon as it turns into dark depths, it sees no counters and sacs to make the 20/20.
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Deathseide on December 12, 2013, 08:44:40 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on December 12, 2013, 06:19:22 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 11, 2013, 08:49:21 AM
Toss in a {lotus petal} to make it T1.

T1: {lotus petal}, {sol ring},  {Thespian's Stage}, {dark Depths}
Course the only bad point is that as soon as you convert the stage, you have to sac the original depths because of the legends rule...
Wrong. You have the option of which one to sac due to the new update to the the legendary rule.
You do have a choice, but would you really sac the depths with no counters on it?
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Stromack on December 12, 2013, 08:57:47 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 12, 2013, 08:44:40 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on December 12, 2013, 06:19:22 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 11, 2013, 08:49:21 AM
Toss in a {lotus petal} to make it T1.

T1: {lotus petal}, {sol ring},  {Thespian's Stage}, {dark Depths}
Course the only bad point is that as soon as you convert the stage, you have to sac the original depths because of the legends rule...
Wrong. You have the option of which one to sac due to the new update to the the legendary rule.
You do have a choice, but would you really sac the depths with no counters on it?

To activate dark depths, you need it to have 0 counters, so yes you would.
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Deathseide on December 12, 2013, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: Stromack on December 12, 2013, 08:57:47 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 12, 2013, 08:44:40 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on December 12, 2013, 06:19:22 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 11, 2013, 08:49:21 AM
Toss in a {lotus petal} to make it T1.

T1: {lotus petal}, {sol ring},  {Thespian's Stage}, {dark Depths}
Course the only bad point is that as soon as you convert the stage, you have to sac the original depths because of the legends rule...
Wrong. You have the option of which one to sac due to the new update to the the legendary rule.
You do have a choice, but would you really sac the depths with no counters on it?

To activate dark depths, you need it to have 0 counters, so yes you would.
The reference was in regards to the legends rule, which activates as soon as the stage copies the depths, and, I believe, has to be resolved before the next step can happen, which is the stage/depths being sacked to bring out Marit
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: easonej on December 12, 2013, 09:39:14 PM
Ohhhhhhhh!!!!!!! Ok everything makes since now haha
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: xStrayKnightx on December 13, 2013, 02:30:14 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on December 11, 2013, 10:53:56 AM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on December 11, 2013, 10:52:48 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 11, 2013, 08:49:21 AM
Toss in a {lotus petal} to make it T1.

T1: {lotus petal}, {sol ring},  {Thespian's Stage}, {dark Depths}
Course the only bad point is that as soon as you convert the stage, you have to sac the original depths because of the legends rule...
How does that make it T1?

It can't be T1 unless you have a card that allows you to play 2 lands on T1. If you have a card like that DO TELL lol

I don't see the problem with having a 20/20 on the field by T3 and have it able to attack. Not a lot that can stop that from happening.
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Deathseide on December 13, 2013, 04:20:36 AM
Except by t3, it is more likely an opponent would have a way to monkey wrench the combo...
Definitely not saying they absolutely will, but to have them on the defensive that early is a plus...
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Mattao19 on December 13, 2013, 12:30:22 PM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 13, 2013, 04:20:36 AM
Except by t3, it is more likely an opponent would have a way to monkey wrench the combo...
Definitely not saying they absolutely will, but to have them on the defensive that early is a plus...

Enter {Darksteel Mutation}!!!!!
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: rarehuntertay on December 13, 2013, 12:48:02 PM
In response to the attack, I fuse  {Turn // Burn} and target Marit Lage...
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Mattao19 on December 13, 2013, 02:48:23 PM
T3 Turn Burn is too tough to do in those colours though
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Jdogtoocool on December 13, 2013, 05:09:54 PM
 {Lightning Greaves} that's right it's scoop time
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Deathseide on December 14, 2013, 04:10:10 AM
Or just pull a t 4  {B.F.M. (Big Furry Monster Left)},  {B.F.M. (Big Furry Monster Right)} onto the field... ;)
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Mattao19 on December 14, 2013, 09:35:30 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 14, 2013, 04:10:10 AM
Or just pull a t 4  {B.F.M. (Big Furry Monster Left)},  {B.F.M. (Big Furry Monster Right)} onto the field... ;)

Dat devotion! 😝
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Brawler_1337 on December 14, 2013, 11:11:20 AM
Gary gusta!

Dammit, now I wish I had an image of {Gray Merchant of Asphodel} with the me gusta face.
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Yawgmoth85 on December 15, 2013, 08:17:57 AM
Would {vesuva} copy the tokes on d.depths?
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Sardok on December 15, 2013, 08:23:48 AM
Unfortunately yes, since it would enter the battlefield as {Dark Depths}.
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: TheRagingMage on December 15, 2013, 12:49:23 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on December 11, 2013, 10:53:56 AM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on December 11, 2013, 10:52:48 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 11, 2013, 08:49:21 AM
Toss in a {lotus petal} to make it T1.

T1: {lotus petal}, {sol ring},  {Thespian's Stage}, {dark Depths}
Course the only bad point is that as soon as you convert the stage, you have to sac the original depths because of the legends rule...
How does that make it T1?

It can't be T1 unless you have a card that allows you to play 2 lands on T1. If you have a card like that DO TELL lol

{Fastbond}, {Exploration}
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: wvEricP on December 16, 2013, 10:00:03 PM
Quote from: Gleemax on December 15, 2013, 12:49:23 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on December 11, 2013, 10:53:56 AM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on December 11, 2013, 10:52:48 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 11, 2013, 08:49:21 AM
Toss in a {lotus petal} to make it T1.

T1: {lotus petal}, {sol ring},  {Thespian's Stage}, {dark Depths}
Course the only bad point is that as soon as you convert the stage, you have to sac the original depths because of the legends rule...
How does that make it T1?

It can't be T1 unless you have a card that allows you to play 2 lands on T1. If you have a card like that DO TELL lol

{Fastbond}, {Exploration}

Incredibly evil!
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: TheRagingMage on December 16, 2013, 10:06:25 PM
Quote from: wvEricP on December 16, 2013, 10:00:03 PM
Quote from: Gleemax on December 15, 2013, 12:49:23 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on December 11, 2013, 10:53:56 AM
Quote from: Wackaman9001 on December 11, 2013, 10:52:48 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 11, 2013, 08:49:21 AM
Toss in a {lotus petal} to make it T1.

T1: {lotus petal}, {sol ring},  {Thespian's Stage}, {dark Depths}
Course the only bad point is that as soon as you convert the stage, you have to sac the original depths because of the legends rule...
How does that make it T1?

It can't be T1 unless you have a card that allows you to play 2 lands on T1. If you have a card like that DO TELL lol

{Fastbond}, {Exploration}

Incredibly evil!

There's a reason that {Fastbond} is restricted in Vintage and banned in all other formats.
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: wvEricP on December 16, 2013, 10:07:27 PM
Including EDH :(
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Deathseide on December 17, 2013, 03:59:28 AM
Exactly, same reason {channel} is... It is very powerful
Title: Re: T2 20/20 flying indestructible
Post by: Vileo on December 17, 2013, 04:22:20 AM
Quote from: Deathseide on December 17, 2013, 03:59:28 AM
Exactly, same reason {channel} is... It is very powerful
That and because banning {Fireball} wasn't an option...