For example my opponent casted {show and tell}. So both of us will put a permanent. If i put {ashen rider} as my permanent, and my opponent put {omniscience}, does the effect of ashen triggers immediately because of show and tell? And i can exile omniscience? Or ashen doesn't resolve immediately? So he can still cast in response through his omniscience?
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Case of APNAP?
Opponent goes first, drops omniscience. Your turn, ashen rider and then choose omniscience.
Correct?
Quote from: Anoobass on December 10, 2013, 02:00:27 PM
Case of APNAP?
Opponent goes first, drops omniscience. Your turn, ashen rider and then choose omniscience.
Correct?
Kinda. The decisions are made in APNAP order, but all the cards actually hit the field simultaneously.
And here's your Gatherer ruling:
4/1/2008 The current player chooses first, then each other player chooses in turn order. A player does not have to reveal the chosen card, so long as it is clear *which* card was chosen. After all choices are made, the cards are put onto the battlefield simultaneously.
so they enter simultaneously. active player puts triggers on stack, has none, passes priority, nonactive puts etb trigger on the stack. active player can respond with instant speed without paying costs?
edit: or can active player play anything once cards enter the battefield since stack is empty?
Quote from: particle on December 10, 2013, 02:06:14 PM
so they enter simultaneously. active player puts triggers on stack, has none, passes priority, nonactive puts etb trigger on the stack. active player can respond with instant speed without paying costs?
edit: or can active player play anything once cards enter the battefield since stack is empty?
The stack won't be empty. Once {Ashen Rider} hits the field, it's ability will trigger the next time any player receives priority. The active player would have to use instant speed spells/abilities.
And just to continue my ruling frenzy, here's some clarification:
112.3c (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=112.3c): Triggered abilities have a trigger condition and an effect. They are written as "[Trigger condition], [effect]," and include (and usually begin with) the word "when," "whenever," or "at." Whenever the trigger event occurs, the ability is put on the stack the
next time a player would receive priority and stays there until it's countered, it resolves, or it otherwise leaves the stack. See rule 603, "Handling Triggered Abilities."
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Thanks Keyeto! I didn't know abilities triggered when anyone got priority. Now if both players had etb triggers, would they stack APNAP?
Quote from: particle on December 10, 2013, 02:16:35 PM
Thanks Keyeto! I didn't know abilities triggered when anyone got priority. Now if both players had etb triggers, would they stack APNAP?
Yep, you got it!