Since trust has been lost to ThatoneguyJoey and his other account Drummerboy, I'd reccomend that both parties involved take timestamped pictures of cards. It's the safest way to prevent a huge scam from happening again.
Quote from: loop-s-pool on March 20, 2012, 04:52:58 PM
Since trust has been lost to ThatoneguyJoey and his other account Drummerboy, I'd reccomend that both parties involved take timestamped pictures of cards. It's the safest way to prevent a huge scam from happening again.
We should hold off on the accusation of Drummerboy being a puppet account until there is stronger evidence. There are approximately 1000 registered members that have never made a single post.
As for ThatoneguyJoey, if you are having troubles dealing with things, I suggest you take care of that which is most important first. If you have family issues, then perhaps new trades should be put on the backburner until you can at least deal with the trades to which you have already committed.
Sometimes mail can be slow. I get that. But if you are arranging new trades before sending promised trades out, it will not look very favorably to you. I hope that people's orders are in the mail as we speak and that they will be getting them in a reasonable amount of time.
People here are just trying to protect others from possible scams, so sometimes things can get a little defensive. Let's all just take a deep breath, and sort things out calmly.
Quote from: BlackJester on March 20, 2012, 05:11:30 PM
Quote from: loop-s-pool on March 20, 2012, 04:52:58 PM
Since trust has been lost to ThatoneguyJoey and his other account Drummerboy, I'd reccomend that both parties involved take timestamped pictures of cards. It's the safest way to prevent a huge scam from happening again.
We should hold off on the accusation of Drummerboy being a puppet account until there is stronger evidence. There are approximately 1000 registered members that have never made a single post.
It's not only that, but they are never on both at the same time, he has traded multiple times before according to him (he keeps them on the DL supposedly) and has been the only one to complete a trade with Joey, and apparently talks to him. What I'm saying is where there's smoke there is fire.
I also think it is a bit too much of a conicidence but dont be too hasty. I try some New traders right now for example {Nillawafers} ( i would trade her my sliverdeck because i Trust her that much) and if you say we can't trust them because they dont have enough post we will just have a few people trading and will Never get more traders
I might exaggerat this a Bit too much but it Could happen
Hey guys,
If you look at joeys post where he was accused, he replied and his response seemed legitimate to me, keep your cool and give him some time...losing a family member is very tough on someone especially if they were close...I'll quote his response here.
Quote from: ThatoneguyJoey on March 19, 2012, 11:49:12 PM
Look guys first off I'm very sorry if all of you are thinking I'm an untrustworthy person. I have a lot of 💩 going on with me and my family these past 2 weeks, but I assure you that all of you will receive your cards just be patient and let me deal with 💩 first
Mind the swears. TY.
But I also believe {cltrn81} also makes a good point about the $300 trade.
However, I believe you should still give him some time to get everything sorted out.
My condolences to you, Joey.
Quote from: Sagemaster on March 20, 2012, 05:46:37 PM
Quote from: ThatoneguyJoey on March 19, 2012, 11:49:12 PM
Look guys first off I'm very sorry if all of you are thinking I'm an untrustworthy person. I have a lot of 💩 going on with me and my family these past 2 weeks, but I assure you that all of you will receive your cards just be patient and let me deal with 💩 first
Mind the swears. TY.
But I also believe {cltrn81} also makes a good point about the $300 trade.
However, I believe you should still give him some time to get everything sorted out.
My condolences to you, Joey.
I hope We are wrong but it doesn't feel that way. I guess I lost a good card then.
Quote from: Richardalcala on March 20, 2012, 06:08:22 PM
Quote from: Sagemaster on March 20, 2012, 05:46:37 PM
Quote from: ThatoneguyJoey on March 19, 2012, 11:49:12 PM
Look guys first off I'm very sorry if all of you are thinking I'm an untrustworthy person. I have a lot of 💩 going on with me and my family these past 2 weeks, but I assure you that all of you will receive your cards just be patient and let me deal with 💩 first
Mind the swears. TY.
But I also believe {cltrn81} also makes a good point about the $300 trade.
However, I believe you should still give him some time to get everything sorted out.
My condolences to you, Joey.
I hope We are wrong but it doesn't feel that way. I guess I lost a good card then.
I hope so too. He said to me he sent mine. So I'll be expecting it fairly soon.
Thanks {remasuri ger} :) It means a lot.
I was really worried about this trading stuff because cards are valuable, we all know this. And I am new to the crowd (soon to hopefully boast two satisfied traders) but if there is any advice I have to give it would be to talk things through. If you are going to make a huge trade somewhere down the line, first start smaller (if possible) to build up a relationship or trust.
Sure postage is expensive, but not as much as trust. :)
Also he did send this.
Today at 07:13:31 AM
I sent every single card to every single person. I read that the USPS is on strike in California and that is slowing a bunch of 💩
Censored by me but if any Cali users know about a strike, please do tell.
My little sister at USC hasn't heard about it. And the Internet says the last strike they had was in '97. :/
I do believe in karma. It will come back around. He must need the cards more than me. I hope he enjoies the free plain walkers.
The cards i sent him were delivered on saturday march 17th @2:31pm according to my tracking number so if they are striking they still are delivering the mail. And according to him he sent out cards for me on tuesday march 13th so they should be out of cali. They should be in my mail box already but they are not.
Quote from: BlackJester on March 20, 2012, 05:11:30 PM
Quote from: loop-s-pool on March 20, 2012, 04:52:58 PM
Since trust has been lost to ThatoneguyJoey and his other account Drummerboy, I'd reccomend that both parties involved take timestamped pictures of cards. It's the safest way to prevent a huge scam from happening again.
We should hold off on the accusation of Drummerboy being a puppet account until there is stronger evidence. There are approximately 1000 registered members that have never made a single post.
As for ThatoneguyJoey, if you are having troubles dealing with things, I suggest you take care of that which is most important first. If you have family issues, then perhaps new trades should be put on the backburner until you can at least deal with the trades to which you have already committed.
Sometimes mail can be slow. I get that. But if you are arranging new trades before sending promised trades out, it will not look very favorably to you. I hope that people's orders are in the mail as we speak and that they will be getting them in a reasonable amount of time.
People here are just trying to protect others from possible scams, so sometimes things can get a little defensive. Let's all just take a deep breath, and sort things out calmly.
Through a little googling. I can say with 99.999999999% certainty that thatoneguyjoey and drummer boy are one in the same. No doubt remains in my mind anyway.
Still sour about giving my cards away.
We should find out his real name then take him to small claims court. I watch judge joe brown. They have dealt with things like this. I just don't care much for rolling over on this. Pretty upset right now.
Im out 2 garruk primal hunters, 4 primeval titans 2 demonic tutors 2 wheel of fortunes a scalding tarn, a marsh flat and a city of brass. Yup it stings a little
I just started trading here this week. Sent out my first trade in the mail today.
Hopefully we as a community can get past this and not let one bad egg spoil the bunch.
Damn i recently sent out 2 lilianas to this guy
Almost errybody traded with him. Including myself.
Joseph "evil_drummer" woods is on MySpace. For anyone serious about it. And yea. All his other usernames are about drummers. So does drummerboy sound anymore familiar? I'm out a grim lavamancer and an Inkmoth Nexus. I even threw in a freebie for karma's sake.
Quote from: loop-s-pool on March 20, 2012, 08:19:11 PM
Almost errybody traded with him. Including myself.
It's a good thing this guy was brought to everyone's attention. You'd probably get sick if you saw what I was about to trade to him.
Thank you to everyone who has come forth, you just saved me from losing $500 worth of cards. I'll gladly participate in any way possible to see to it that your cards get returned, if it's even possible.
I've only made 1 small trade with him. Not a big loss, but I still wish I could've kept my Promo Valakut
Quote from: TBNL on March 20, 2012, 09:12:36 PM
I've only made 1 small trade with him. Not a big loss, but I still wish I could've kept my Promo Valakut
What did he say he was 'trading'? Something overflated I'm sure.
Quote from: loop-s-pool on March 20, 2012, 09:19:35 PM
Quote from: TBNL on March 20, 2012, 09:12:36 PM
I've only made 1 small trade with him. Not a big loss, but I still wish I could've kept my Promo Valakut
What did he say he was 'trading'? Something overflated I'm sure.
{Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger}
$2-$3 Valakut for $3 Vorinclex, not that unbelievable
I will give him tell Friday then I will be calling the Fresno Police and letting them know about what he has been up too. I suggest everyone else who has been ripped off by this guy does too.
Quote from: TBNL on March 20, 2012, 09:21:46 PM
Quote from: loop-s-pool on March 20, 2012, 09:19:35 PM
Quote from: TBNL on March 20, 2012, 09:12:36 PM
I've only made 1 small trade with him. Not a big loss, but I still wish I could've kept my Promo Valakut
What did he say he was 'trading'? Something overflated I'm sure.
{Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger}
$2-$3 Valakut for $3 Vorinclex, not that unbelievable
Did he approach you or the other way around vice versa?
Quote from: loop-s-pool on March 20, 2012, 09:34:17 PM
Quote from: TBNL on March 20, 2012, 09:21:46 PM
Quote from: loop-s-pool on March 20, 2012, 09:19:35 PM
Quote from: TBNL on March 20, 2012, 09:12:36 PM
I've only made 1 small trade with him. Not a big loss, but I still wish I could've kept my Promo Valakut
What did he say he was 'trading'? Something overflated I'm sure.
{Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger}
$2-$3 Valakut for $3 Vorinclex, not that unbelievable
Did he approach you or the other way around vice versa?
He put up a trade thread requesting Valakut, and I said I had one for trade
I should steal his mail and send everything back to you guys haha
You would be my hero lol
Send poof the shipping address do it ! (x
You guys obviously have all the necessary information to dox this guy. Get to it!
I put him on watch so we will see if he sends back my cards or if I have to call the Fresno police or judge joe brown I don't care it's the princeable of the whole thing. It is not ok to rip people off.
I guess we know where his giant collection came from :/sorry guys on your trades.
I dont know if it matters but he pulled himself off multiverse. So either we wont see him anymore or we will under a brand new name.
Quote from: Richardalcala on March 20, 2012, 10:14:15 PM
I put him on watch so we will see if he sends back my cards or if I have to call the Fresno police or judge joe brown I don't care it's the princeable of the whole thing. It is not ok to rip people off.
Holy crap. Okay, at first I was skeptical about this whole thing, I gave it a "wrong place/wrong time" kind of attitude. But after reading all of these stories and especially the PM sent to Validan regarding the strike, I have major doubts. After putting up this thread and threatening to involve the authorities, he almost immediately put up his own thread about returning cards and allowing others to keep "what was sent". You guys obviously scared him, but I would not be fooled by any new users asking for large trades.
I don't think we should let something like this slide. Okay, so the heartfelt story of a passing father seemed legitimate, I believed it. But then he personally said that he HAD NOT sent out ANY cards yet. That he was waiting to get back into town to do so. Okay, sure, that makes sense, but wait, what? There's a ton of stuff that does NOT add up. Why is it that some users have SPECIFIC dates as to when their cards were "sent out"? He said he did not send ANY... I did not want to get involved, I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, but this smells like some MAJOR Bull to me! He came this close to rippin off XFatal for around $500.00 worth of cards! That is stupid! I really think we should do something, this sickens me.
What pm sent to me exactly?
Quote from: Validan on March 21, 2012, 02:49:58 PM
What pm sent to me exactly?
Apologies, the message to loop-s-pool. I saw your Avatar in my head, it was something green! Lol
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on March 21, 2012, 02:31:28 PM
He came this close to rippin off XFatal for around $500.00 worth of cards! That is stupid! I really think we should do something, this sickens me.
It's true. I even have them all packaged, and I even included a few foil rares for good measure. It's really disgusting that someone would do that. If it weren't for the warning threads, I would've shipped them the day after the threads were posted!
Well now that the cat is
Out of the bag I've been trying to confirm if this is the same Joey that a friend of mine knows about. My friend knows one of joeys ex friends and my friend said that the ex friend said he is a liar and all his cards are stolen. So I had my friend text this guy to see if the last name matched up and other stuff we know about him but his ex friend hasn't responded. So who's to say if a guy pulling something like this would even use his real name and if the Joey hes thinking of is our Joey.
Either way when he said all his cards are stolen I was like how could someone steal so many cards. But I guess were getting a first hand experience right here.