So I have a friend who has a green mana ramp deck where he can get out a very powerful {dungrove elder} with a {sword of war and peace} attached by like, turn four. Now that makes me rage pretty hard and i've been thinking of ways to get around this and I came across {Phyrexian revoker} and was wondering if it could bypass the hexproof since it doesn't target the creature itself but the card. Also, any other good standard ways to bypass hexproof?
Yes it would work on te Dungrove howver the Tree has no activated abilities.
Wait what explain yourself.
{Dungrove Elder} has hexproof which is a static ability. Its power and toughness ability is also static. Trigger abilities happen when something in the game causes it to work. Activated abilities require a cost: like paying mana, tapping, paying mana and tapping, or saccing a creature. For example {Grimgrin, Corpse-Born} saccing a creature is a activated ability. "When it attacks" is a triggered ability
Ahhh okay. Well then I can use it to slow down his mana ramping birds and Llanowars right? What about primeval Titans?
Also, {predator ooze}'s counter abilities, will it get rid of those?
Quote from: Nobbert on March 20, 2012, 12:17:01 PM
Ahhh okay. Well then I can use it to slow down his mana ramping birds and {Llanowars right}? What about {primeval Titan}s?
yes to the birds and the elf. Titan no. When he enters the BF and attacka it triggers and he gets 2 lands
Quote from: Nobbert on March 20, 2012, 12:19:47 PM
Also, {predator ooze}'s counter abilities, will it get rid of those?
No. Usually if the ability says "Whenever" its usually triggered
I think my dumb self understands
Quote from: Nobbert on March 20, 2012, 12:31:56 PM
I think my dumb self understands
Not dumb. I never understood till Jester taught me. Just remember lifelink trample deathtouch etc etc are static. Whenever this happens this happens is triggered. And activated costs something (and are instant speed^^ unless it says otherwise)
And that's why my deathtouch can still get a hexproof. It is static by activated. Yay! Thanks.
you could get them to sacrifice it, a la {Geth's Verdict}.
Quote from: BlackJester on March 20, 2012, 01:24:33 PM
you could get them to sacrifice it, a la {Geth's Verdict}.
I carry two in all black decks
{Tribute to Hunger}, {Day of Judgement}, {Blasphemous Act}, {Black Sun's Zenith}, {Any Card with Deathtouch} All I can think of.