Two questions! :)
1:Can you enchant enemy's creatures with spells like {flicker form}?
2:if you enchant a creature you control and the enemy gets control of the creature do you still control the enchantment?
Yes, and yes :)
So I still control {flicker form} if they control the creature and I can flicker their creatures??
You sure can!
And if you {Shiv's Embrace} a creature, and someone takes control of him, you still control the firebreathing
Gorzo, how do you control the firebreathing when it says enchanted creature has R: +X/+X?
This confused me in a draft recently. I had a {dragon mantle} in hand and no creatures of my own. I enchanted my opponents creature, to draw a card, but was unsure if his creature could activate the ability. since it says it gives the creature text i would think they can activate it.
Quote from: particle on November 30, 2013, 04:33:21 PM
Gorzo, how do you control the firebreathing when it says enchanted creature has R: +X/+X?
This confused me in a draft recently. I had a {dragon mantle} in hand and no creatures of my own. I enchanted my opponents creature, to draw a card, but was unsure if his creature could activate the ability. since it says it gives the creature text i would think they can activate it.
Shiv's Embrace works that way because the activated ebility is on the enchantment itself. Dragon Mantle gives the creature the activated ability. With mantle, whoever controls the creature, controls the ability.
ok. "gets" vs "have". I see now. thanks.
Quote from: particle on November 30, 2013, 04:38:07 PM
ok. "gets" vs "have". I see now. thanks.
It's not that, it's because {dragon mantle} grants the ability to fire breathe to the creature, which the creature's controller controls. {Shiv's Embrace} has the fire breathing on the enchantment itself, which is controlled by the enchantment's controller.
Quote from: Gorzo on November 30, 2013, 05:22:19 PM
Quote from: particle on November 30, 2013, 04:38:07 PM
ok. "gets" vs "have". I see now. thanks.
It's not that, it's because {dragon mantle} grants the ability to fire breathe to the creature, which the creature's controller controls. {Shiv's Embrace} has the fire breathing on the enchantment itself, which is controlled by the enchantment's controller.
That's basically what he said, just extremely simplified.
So if you control an enchanted creature, and an opponent steals it, the enchantment stays on?
I guess it depends how they steal it, but if it's something like {control magic} then yes.
As long as it doesn't leave the battlefield, the enchantment stays on it (and remains under the control of its caster, if it matters)
So something like {Soul ransom} would keep the enchantment on it, how about something like {Act of treason}
Yep. Enchantment stays on, both of those keep the creature on the field. So it would still be attached. Only the creature would change control, not any cards attached to it.
Same goes for equipment artefacts.
Unless there's a reason for the enchant to fall off (creature leaves the BF or gains protection, for example), it stays on the creature. Enchantments like staying in play and are hard to get rid of.