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Title: Redirecting slaughter games
Post by: Moocow4u2 on November 24, 2013, 07:13:31 PM
Does redirecting count as countering a spell? For example, {wild ricochet}. Would that work against {slaughter games}
Title: Re: Redirecting slaughter games
Post by: Giggle the Draco Genius on November 24, 2013, 07:22:13 PM
If you were playing in a multiplayer game this would be fantastic. In 1v1 though you can not with wild ricochet since your opponent controls it and They are not an eligible target for the redirect. They are for the copy though as you control that copy
Title: Re: Redirecting slaughter games
Post by: Moocow4u2 on November 24, 2013, 07:51:51 PM
Is there any way to defend against it in 1V1?
Title: Re: Redirecting slaughter games
Post by: Kaleo42 on November 24, 2013, 09:12:53 PM
Quote from: Moocow4u2 on November 24, 2013, 07:51:51 PM
Is there any way to defend against it in 1V1?
In standard you get {council of the absolute}, {thoughtseize} and other hand hate, and {reap intellect}. Thats about it.
Title: Re: Redirecting slaughter games
Post by: Gorzo on November 25, 2013, 12:59:03 AM
Quote from: Moocow4u2 on November 24, 2013, 07:13:31 PM
Does redirecting count as countering a spell? For example, {wild ricochet}. Would that work against {slaughter games}

Keep in mind that while, yes, you can redirect which opponent of the caster gets targeted, you can't control what card gets named - that's chosen by the controller/caster, even if you {Swerve} it onto a different player. The copy from {Wild Ricochet} you would get to name your own card of choice, but the not the redirected one that your opponent controls
Title: Re: Redirecting slaughter games
Post by: Giggle the Draco Genius on November 25, 2013, 12:16:48 PM
Isn't the card chosen on resolution? Unless you have to name the card to put it on the stack but I don't think you do
Title: Re: Redirecting slaughter games
Post by: MementoMori on November 25, 2013, 01:31:14 PM
Yeah, but your opponent still controls it. So when it resolves, they can name a card that the new target might have.
Title: Re: Redirecting slaughter games
Post by: MementoMori on November 26, 2013, 08:38:36 AM
The wording would be different if the card was chosen during casting. It would have to be worded like {Caller of the Hunt}, with the choice as an additional cost.
Title: Re: Redirecting slaughter games
Post by: MementoMori on November 26, 2013, 09:00:59 AM
They're the same spell, so they would behave the same way. Your copy would resolve first, and you would name a card. Then the original spell, controlled by your opponent, would resolve, and they would name a card.