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Title: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on November 23, 2013, 02:29:09 AM
27 Angry One Drops

75 cards, 15 sideboard


17 {Plains}

17 lands


4 {Leonin Snarecaster}
4 {Soldier of the Pantheon}
4 {Judge's Familiar}
4 {Dryad Militant}
4 {Imposing Sovereign}
4 {Hopeful Eidolon}
4 {Precinct Captain}

28 creatures


3 {Pacifism}
1 {Glaring Spotlight}
4 {Ethereal Armor}
3 {Silence}
4 {Brave the Elements}

15 other spells


Sideboard

2 {Mutavault}
1 {Silence}
3 {Banisher Priest}
1 {Plains}
1 {Gideon, Champion of Justice}
1 {Glaring Spotlight}
1 {Pacifism}
2 {Boros Reckoner}
2 {Heliod, God of the Sun}
1 {Spear of Heliod}

15 sideboard cards


Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: wvEricP on November 23, 2013, 02:38:34 AM
Why no  {Ajani, Caller of the Pride}? Would be pretty relevant.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Mattao19 on November 23, 2013, 02:45:27 AM
Isn't it 24 angry one drops and 4 angry 2 drops?
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on November 23, 2013, 03:55:06 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 23, 2013, 02:45:27 AM
Isn't it 24 angry one drops and 4 angry 2 drops?
4 soldier + 4 familiar + 4 hopeful + 4 dryad makes 16 creature one drops.

4 armor + 4 brave + 3 silence makes 11 noncreature one drops.

16+11=27

Quote from: wvEricP on November 23, 2013, 02:38:34 AM
Why no  {Ajani, Caller of the Pride}? Would be pretty relevant.

I dont currently have any and even if I did Im not sure where I would put it.

This went 5-0 tonight with one game loss the whole night.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on November 23, 2013, 05:07:18 AM
Notice that the curve is higher in the board adding land of some combination can make a huge impact on the playability. Te mainboard functions great but post board I have to change based on if I am going first or (more commonly) second since cards like {precinct captian} are not as effective as {banisher priest} when you are on the draw. The nykthos allows for explosive plays against decks with more removal.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Flashley_ska on November 23, 2013, 05:18:11 AM
How about:
-4  {Imposing Sovereign}
+4  {Blind Obedience}?
The extort ability with all the one drops would surely work well, plus it's another enchantment for {Ethereal Armor}
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on November 23, 2013, 05:24:15 AM
Blind obediance doesnt attack...the game should be over by turn 5 every time. Obedience is for long games and stopping haste where as sovreign is to limits blockers and get damage in.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Wally on November 23, 2013, 05:46:56 AM
No love for  {Immortal Servitude}?
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on November 23, 2013, 05:58:25 AM
Quote from: Wally on November 23, 2013, 05:46:56 AM
No love for  {Immortal Servitude}?
Why would I here? I lose if the game goes long enough for that to mean anything.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: JordanCirk on November 23, 2013, 08:39:15 AM
 {Azorius Arrester} straight up better than  {Leonin Snarecaster}
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on November 23, 2013, 09:01:10 AM
Quote from: JordanCirk on November 23, 2013, 08:39:15 AM
{Azorius Arrester} straight up better than  {Leonin Snarecaster}
Yup agreed. I didnt have my rtr commons box at the time just my relevance commons.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Mattao19 on November 23, 2013, 06:42:41 PM
Would {Rootborn defenses} help? Like what happens if they T4 Verdict?
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on November 23, 2013, 06:43:55 PM
They dont. So far I have either had {silence} or they died by then.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Mattao19 on November 23, 2013, 06:45:46 PM
Very true. Nice I love how the SB is like 5x more expensive than the MB lol

Also did you notice any real weaknesses to the deck?
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on November 23, 2013, 07:01:04 PM
My only loss was when i was trapped on one land post board. I still represented lethal but well times {golgari charm}s kept my one drops down enough to stop me long enough to get their board set.

I have to play smart around {G}{B} because they have {golgari charm} and {gaze of granite} which can come down fast enough to stop my lethal swing. After some review {shock} and {electrickery} are concerns but rarely played right now.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Mattao19 on November 23, 2013, 07:03:12 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on November 23, 2013, 07:01:04 PM
My only loss was when i was trapped on one land post board. I still represented lethal but well times {golgari charm}s kept my one drops down enough to stop me long enough to get their board set.

I have to play smart around {G}{B} because they have {golgari charm} and {gaze of granite} which can come down fast enough to stop my lethal swing. After some review {shock} and {electrickery} are concerns but rarely played right now.

Ok cool and how'd you do vs. Esper and Grixis control. I thought that they be a problem for you
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on November 23, 2013, 07:15:17 PM
That dont have enough turns to stabalize. The {silence}, {judge's familiar}, and {brave the elements} keep them too far behind. I have not found a genuinly bad match up but the deck can peter out and fall short but not often.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Mattao19 on November 23, 2013, 07:23:13 PM
That's cool I want to try it any tips on what I should look for in my opening hand? And when to silence etc?
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on November 23, 2013, 07:34:13 PM
4 mana is the pivotal point in magic right now. What ever turn they have 4+ mana is a good one to silence. As far as openig hand you just need a land and a first turn play. The deck isnt too picky beyond that.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on December 02, 2013, 03:37:23 AM
4-1 losing to my teammate's mono black.

Deck tech is up!
http://youtu.be/0LgV85_Cu9E
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Apathy Reactor on December 02, 2013, 10:19:11 AM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on November 23, 2013, 05:58:25 AM
Quote from: Wally on November 23, 2013, 05:46:56 AM
No love for  {Immortal Servitude}?
Why would I here? I lose if the game goes long enough for that to mean anything.
it would counter an enemy ratchet bomb or a board wipe though, right?
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Mothaelon on December 02, 2013, 10:27:27 AM
Quote from: IceScythe on December 02, 2013, 10:19:11 AM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on November 23, 2013, 05:58:25 AM
Quote from: Wally on November 23, 2013, 05:46:56 AM
No love for  {Immortal Servitude}?
Why would I here? I lose if the game goes long enough for that to mean anything.
it would counter an enemy ratchet bomb or a board wipe though, right?

By the time it became relevant to use 4 mana to bring back enough one drops to Swing for lethal on your next turn.

Any midrange/control deck has board control at that point or can easily maintain it with 5-6 mana.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Apathy Reactor on December 02, 2013, 01:36:01 PM
Quote from: Mothaelon on December 02, 2013, 10:27:27 AM
Quote from: IceScythe on December 02, 2013, 10:19:11 AM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on November 23, 2013, 05:58:25 AM
Quote from: Wally on November 23, 2013, 05:46:56 AM
No love for  {Immortal Servitude}?
Why would I here? I lose if the game goes long enough for that to mean anything.
it would counter an enemy ratchet bomb or a board wipe though, right?

By the time it became relevant to use 4 mana to bring back enough one drops to Swing for lethal on your next turn.

Any midrange/control deck has board control at that point or can easily maintain it with 5-6 mana.
ah, ok then
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Vileo on December 03, 2013, 01:24:02 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on November 23, 2013, 09:01:10 AM
Quote from: JordanCirk on November 23, 2013, 08:39:15 AM
{Azorius Arrester} straight up better than  {Leonin Snarecaster}
Yup agreed. I didnt have my rtr commons box at the time just my relevance commons.
How would you reconstruct this with RTR block commons? Out of Curiosity.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Mattao19 on December 03, 2013, 01:44:20 PM
I added 3x {Boros Elite} instead of 3x {Precinct Captains} bc I only have 1 PC but they actually help a lot all of a sudden I swing for 3 with my one drop so it's good
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on December 03, 2013, 04:45:22 PM
Quote from: Vileo on December 03, 2013, 01:24:02 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on November 23, 2013, 09:01:10 AM
Quote from: JordanCirk on November 23, 2013, 08:39:15 AM
{Azorius Arrester} straight up better than  {Leonin Snarecaster}
Yup agreed. I didnt have my rtr commons box at the time just my relevance commons.
How would you reconstruct this with RTR block commons? Out of Curiosity.
You mean as a block deck?
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Vileo on December 03, 2013, 06:44:35 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 03, 2013, 04:45:22 PM
Quote from: Vileo on December 03, 2013, 01:24:02 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on November 23, 2013, 09:01:10 AM
Quote from: JordanCirk on November 23, 2013, 08:39:15 AM
{Azorius Arrester} straight up better than  {Leonin Snarecaster}
Yup agreed. I didnt have my rtr commons box at the time just my relevance commons.
How would you reconstruct this with RTR block commons? Out of Curiosity.
You mean as a block deck?
No, as in if you had them at your disposal, wha would you replace, etc?
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on December 03, 2013, 06:50:12 PM
I do have them I just didnt bother to grab them. Arrester would be the only change.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Vileo on December 03, 2013, 07:20:13 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on December 03, 2013, 06:50:12 PM
I do have them I just didnt bother to grab them. Arrester would be the only change.
I see. Thanks.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on December 03, 2013, 10:02:00 PM
At a local meta where people fall for that sure. Arrester is strickly better though.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: griffin131 on December 28, 2013, 09:55:01 AM
I love the way this plays. You might have answered this in your tech video, but how do you answer a turn 3 {Stormbreath}?

I didn't have the transformative sideboard (didn't have time to put it together) and couldn't think of a response.

It did feel good to T1 Judge's Familiar, T2 Pacifism on a dork, T3  {Ethereal Armor} x2, hold him back to block, T4 Armor x2, swing for 21 First Strike Flying.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on December 28, 2013, 04:38:39 PM
{brave the elements} and {glaring spotlight} are the best you can do against {blood baron of vizkopa} and {stormbreath dragon}.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on December 28, 2013, 04:42:06 PM
Totally just realized I never updated the list.

-2 {renounce the guilds} (side)
Move 1 {pacifism} (main to side)
+2 {glaring spotlight} (1 main, 1 side)
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: lotrwk on December 28, 2013, 06:52:28 PM
Might I suggest {Daring Skyjek}? 3 power for 2 is great, and most of the time, he'll be 3 power with flying for 2.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on December 28, 2013, 07:09:35 PM
I dont consistently have battalion due to running so many non creatures. An alternate take on this list includes {daring skyjek} and {boros elite} over some of the noncreature spells.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 30, 2013, 02:26:53 AM
Have you thought about {Beckon Apparition} for the deck (or SB)? It gives an instant speed 1/1 w/ flying for {W} and if you are going against graveyard (which is gaining popularity now) it can screw them in a pinch.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on December 30, 2013, 02:44:13 AM
Havent seen much graveyard stuff.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: griffin131 on December 31, 2013, 01:10:07 AM
I ran against a Standard Dredge deck, but I killed him with a T4 21/21 familiar game one, then just swarmed him game 2. He never got stabilized.  Not sure we need the graveyard hate.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Vindog on December 31, 2013, 10:19:00 AM
Quote from: griffin131 on December 31, 2013, 01:10:07 AM
I ran against a Standard Dredge deck, but I killed him with a T4 21/21 familiar game one, then just swarmed him game 2. He never got stabilized.  Not sure we need the graveyard hate.
How?
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Mattao19 on December 31, 2013, 11:37:11 AM
Quote from: Vindog on December 31, 2013, 10:19:00 AM
Quote from: griffin131 on December 31, 2013, 01:10:07 AM
I ran against a Standard Dredge deck, but I killed him with a T4 21/21 familiar game one, then just swarmed him game 2. He never got stabilized.  Not sure we need the graveyard hate.
How?

Probably 4 {Ethereal Armors} and a {Hopeful Eidolon} so each Ethereal gives +5/+5!!!
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: griffin131 on January 01, 2014, 11:51:57 AM
Quote from: Vindog on December 31, 2013, 10:19:00 AM
Quote from: griffin131 on December 31, 2013, 01:10:07 AM
I ran against a Standard Dredge deck, but I killed him with a T4 21/21 familiar game one, then just swarmed him game 2. He never got stabilized.  Not sure we need the graveyard hate.
How?
T1 {Judge's Familiar}, T2 {Pacifism} a mana dork, T3 {Ethereal Armor} x2 - held back to block a {Nemesis of Mortals}, T4 "Wanna see some bullshit?" {Ethereal Armor} x2, swing for 21.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Ekann1 on January 02, 2014, 01:04:19 AM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on November 23, 2013, 05:07:18 AM
Notice that the curve is higher in the board adding land of some combination can make a huge impact on the playability. Te mainboard functions great but post board I have to change based on if I am going first or (more commonly) second since cards like {precinct captian} are not as effective as {banisher priest} when you are on the draw. The nykthos allows for explosive plays against decks with more removal.

Does this mean people are supposed to tell you whether they choose to play or draw (assuming they lost game 1) before, sideboarding is over?
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Giggle the Draco Genius on January 02, 2014, 02:17:24 AM
No the declaration happens after deck presentations but before initial hand. You just assume they are going first as going first before an aggro deck could give you tr time to stabalize
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Ekann1 on January 02, 2014, 11:37:23 AM
ok, that's what i thought. thanks.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on January 22, 2014, 06:50:16 PM
{Loyal Pegasus} and {Spirit of the Labyrinth} from BNG are definitely things to consider for this deck.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Kaleo42 on January 22, 2014, 10:14:13 PM
Ill post the update within the week of the release.
Title: Re: 27 Angry One Drops
Post by: Ekann1 on May 31, 2014, 11:32:35 PM
I'm bumping this for someone who wanted a budget standard deck.