Victim: Spencer Addington
Accused: iTzTowelie404
On November 1st, iTzTowelie404 and I agreed on a trade, my foil {child of alara} for his 2 {sublime archangel}. I offered to send out first because I was new and didn't have any references as a trusted trader. I sent out his card 2 days later. It has been 2 weeks and nothing. No messages or cards in the mail. I checked in to ask about the cards about 4 days ago, and he hasn't responded.
2 weeks seems a bit early for a trial, even without contact
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on November 18, 2013, 07:45:31 PM
2 weeks seems a bit early for a trial, even without contact
I asked dudecore and he said wait until it's been two weeks. I just want my cards and I don't know what else to do.
Alright that makes sense. But I had a trade I did through youtube where the guy sent out his end, and I hadn't received it after more than 2 weeks, and I hadn't contacted him. Turns out the first shipment got lost and he had to rebuy to send them.
Quote from: Taysby on November 18, 2013, 08:20:51 PM
Wait longer. The minimum is two weeks. MIT does seem fishy that he isn't responding. How many times have you tried contactin him?
Twice in one day the a few days later
I would say there's a problem after a month. I know the mailing system can be very bad.
Is he a trusted trader?
Quote from: Ertai on November 18, 2013, 08:40:55 PM
I would say there's a problem after a month. I know the mailing system can be very bad.
Is he a trusted trader?
Yes
Quote from: Taysby on November 18, 2013, 09:34:43 PM
I would say just give it a little longer.
Ok. I'll give it a week and keep sending messages to him.
I've been now waiting for one month for a {kaliona hydra} from Him I have finished 2-3 other trades since I confirmed the trade with him. He has been avoiding my PM's the last two at least and was on line on the 16th glad u posted this I was going to post my side tonight. Ill post more later
Quote from: Boomer17 on November 18, 2013, 10:51:17 PM
I've been now waiting for one month for a {kaliona hydra} from Him I have finished 2-3 other trades since I confirmed the trade with him. He has been avoiding my PM's the last two at least and was on line on the 16th glad u posted this I was going to post my side tonight. Ill post more later
Sorry to hear I'm not the only one :(
Quote from: iTzTowelie404 on November 11, 2013, 01:19:18 PM
No u haven't been scammed sorry for the worries I checked my dads and he says it was returned with less postage and he resent it. I am trusted so I wouldn't try to rip u off but I do feel bad about the long wait
This was from him to me I know others have had long waits with this member after research. A mod had a long wait as he used this exact excuse when his cards did not Arrive in a timely matter. So anyone else dealing with this member be aware that his dealings are shady and take a long time as I am still waiting figure I won't get my end of the trade but hope he comes through. I traded with him since he was on peoples trusted trader list. And I contacted them after I had not gotten my end of the deal. Anyways can't wait to see if he comes forth.
I have now had 3trades with other members went great since starting this trade with him I am coming to the conclustion I will not be receiving my cards sad :( but I think I have finally been taken advantage of well.... still in the game either way lots of good people here on this forum to deal with. What are the precedings a from here
I've been waiting on a trade with him since October 19th, I had a good trade with him previously so I was hoping it would just show up...
The trade consisted of:
My
{Boon Satyr}
{Xenagos, the Reveler}
{Temple of Silence} x2
{Aetherling}
{Plains} x6 Zendikar
For his
{Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre} FTV
{Mana Vault}
{Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur}
{Sorin Markov}
(At the time the value was more even, copied this straight from our PM)
Well at least an update officially a month late but I just received my kaliona hydra...... That's a good thing. So others be hopeful
Quote from: Boomer17 on November 21, 2013, 12:21:46 AM
Well at least an update officially a month late but I just received my kaliona hydra...... That's a good thing. So others be hopeful
That's good to hear! If anything happened, I was really hoping this wasn't intentional!
My trade with him went smoothly, but a little slow. Give him a bit more time :)
So I just got my end in the mail today, the only thing I find strange is that the stamp is for November 18th, so apparently he's just now sending out trades.. I wish he would just be honest about what was going on :/
It's always interesting seeing the actual post mark date that the USPS gives for mail..
Quote from: gtfotis on November 22, 2013, 12:31:14 AM
So I just got my end in the mail today, the only thing I find strange is that the stamp is for November 18th, so apparently he's just now sending out trades.. I wish he would just be honest about what was going on :/
Sadly I've seen this happen on one of my trades. I sent it out a week before it was sent according to usps. So, most times I like to give others the benefit of the doubt.
What now? He's been on recently and I've sent him messages.
Considering he has not responded to any messages nor responded to this trial, I think it's time for the mods to step in a proceed with trial. If he has logged in recently he has had oppurtunity to rebut allegations. Post office is one thing, but things have had the oppurtunity to be corrected in this amount of time. My opinion.
Quote from: Taysby on November 26, 2013, 10:13:06 PM
He was last on here today and 9:07 am.
Then I think the mods should step in. Obviously child of alara may be lost (sorry) but it should definitely reflect on traders list if not bans sanctioned.
It's being discussed. If one/any/all of you could please PM me or MikefromPluto, we can take steps towards getting his address into the known scammers list. He has had ample time to respond to messages or post in this trial, and it seems pretty clear that by ignoring it he has no intentions of completing trades, making right, or in general being a decent person about it.
I'm not sure we can do beyond that, I'm afraid.
Well he was on today...
I didn't even know I had a trial against me. Sorry for the delay, this time (honestly) my father (whome receives the mail) stowed away the Child of Alara envelope in a cupboard. Finally, not long ago, with my asking, he remembered about it and gave it to me. Your end is not sent yet but I assure you it will be now, I have been out of town with the holiday and I unfortunately neglected to send before I left :(
(I have to mention it wasn't in brilliant condition but I'm not totally worried)
Quote from: iTzTowelie404 on December 02, 2013, 12:56:31 AM
I didn't even know I had a trial against me. Sorry for the delay, this time (honestly) my father (whome receives the mail) stowed away the Child of Alara envelope in a cupboard. Finally, not long ago, with my asking, he remembered about it and gave it to me. Your end is not sent yet but I assure you it will be now, I have been out of town with the holiday and I unfortunately neglected to send before I left :(
(I have to mention it wasn't in brilliant condition but I'm not totally worried)
I apologize for that. You were one of my first trades so I didn't know condition was so important. I'm actually really glad you responded. :)
Quote from: Spencer Addington on December 02, 2013, 01:11:10 AM
Quote from: iTzTowelie404 on December 02, 2013, 12:56:31 AM
I didn't even know I had a trial against me. Sorry for the delay, this time (honestly) my father (whome receives the mail) stowed away the Child of Alara envelope in a cupboard. Finally, not long ago, with my asking, he remembered about it and gave it to me. Your end is not sent yet but I assure you it will be now, I have been out of town with the holiday and I unfortunately neglected to send before I left :(
(I have to mention it wasn't in brilliant condition but I'm not totally worried)
I apologize for that. You were one of my first trades so I didn't know condition was so important. I'm actually really glad you responded. :)
No worries bud. I don't screw people, but I admit my trades sometimes take extended periods, and I'm sorry for that. You have nothing to worry about tho.
We'll (well... I'm sure some mods...) will be watching... Lol
We'll will be watching..
Still haven't received anything.
Quote from: iTzTowelie404 on December 07, 2013, 06:57:57 AM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on December 06, 2013, 03:04:36 PM
Still haven't received anything.
It has only been 3 days...
Since you sent? How am I supposed to know that WHEN YOU DONT COMMUNICATE?!?!?
Still nothing. Will never be trading with iTzTowlie again and I advise everyone else to follow suit.
It's been a few weeks now.
I have him on my trusted also.. Very reliable and fast, be patient... Mail is taking a while because of the holidays and magic is not our lives.
Quote from: Ibtrickey on January 02, 2014, 08:55:10 PM
I have him on my trusted also.. Very reliable and fast, be patient... Mail is taking a while because of the holidays and magic is not our lives.
It's now been 2 months since the trade. It has been 3 weeks since he said he sent. Congratulations on the good trade with him, and I truly mean that because he is a thief and a liar and I'm surprised that he sent cards to anyone.
iTzTowelie404 has had ample time to send their cards and the victim has still not received. iTzTowelie404 is now going on the Untrustworthy Traders list.
Removed {itztowelie404} from "trusted traders by #" also.
They are on my trusted and were very fast... I have another trade in progress too. I just wanted to put that.