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Izzet Skies Or Izzet Not? 63 cards, 3 sideboard 4 {Izzet Guildgate} 10 {Mountain} 10 {Island} 24 lands 4 {Spellheart Chimera} 3 {Chandra's Phoenix} 2 {Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius} 4 {Warden of Evos Isle} 2 {Prognostic Sphinx} 4 {Cloudfin Raptor} 3 {Fluxcharger} 22 creatures 2 {Frost Breath} 2 {Ral Zarek} 4 {Dissolve} 4 {Steam Augury} 2 {Magma Jet} 14 other spells Sideboard 3 {Rogue's Passage} 3 sideboard cards Notes: First draft :)

Halp?

Thinking to add {Hypersonic Dragon}, {Windreadet sphinx}, and {Izzet Guildgate}. Thoughts?

Quote from: Mlerner12 on November 14, 2013, 04:09:15 PM
Thinking to add {Hypersonic Dragon}, {Windreadet sphinx}, and {Izzet Guildgate}. Thoughts?

No, no, yes. Maybe add  {Warden of Evos Isle}

Quote from: Joshnoodles on November 14, 2013, 05:23:27 PM

Quote from: Mlerner12 on November 14, 2013, 04:09:15 PM
Thinking to add {Hypersonic Dragon}, {Windreadet sphinx}, and {Izzet Guildgate}. Thoughts?

No, no, yes. Maybe add  {Warden of Evos Isle}

How did I miss that????? Lol, thanks!

This is an update.

I really like this deck. The tempo seems to get to the point fast and stay there.

Quote from: wvEricP on November 14, 2013, 07:44:50 PM
I really like this deck. The tempo seems to get to the point fast and stay there.

Thanks, I got the idea off of Birdbrain, give him most of the credit :)

Have you though about running  {Rogue's Passage} maybe as a 1 of for the lolz?

Make  {Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius} unblockable?

Quote from: wvEricP on November 14, 2013, 07:48:13 PM
Have you though about running  {Rogue's Passage} maybe as a 1 of for the lolz?

Make  {Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius} unblockable?

Doesn't really fit in the deck, plus most decks at my LGS have nearly no flyers. I'll sideboard 3, for against flyer decks :)

Budget change occurred :(

Every creature has flying, so {Shiv's Embrace} and {Pursuit of Flight} don't seem quite as vital.

And you've got 3 of the 5-drop sphinx and 3 6-drop Nivs. That many might see them sitting around in an opening hand for a while, especially with only 20 land.

Just my opinion :)

Quote from: Steerpike on November 15, 2013, 10:55:30 PM
Every creature has flying, so {Shiv's Embrace} and {Pursuit of Flight} don't seem quite as vital.

And you've got 3 of the 5-drop sphinx and 3 6-drop Nivs. That many might see them sitting around in an opening hand for a while, especially with only 20 land.

Just my opinion :)

More land, or less high drops?

Quote from: Mlerner12 on November 16, 2013, 12:34:50 AM

Quote from: Steerpike on November 15, 2013, 10:55:30 PM
Every creature has flying, so {Shiv's Embrace} and {Pursuit of Flight} don't seem quite as vital.

And you've got 3 of the 5-drop sphinx and 3 6-drop Nivs. That many might see them sitting around in an opening hand for a while, especially with only 20 land.

Just my opinion :)

More land, or less high drops?

Yes. Drop one of each high drops and add that many land in.

I would say after taking away one of each, (then all the Embraces and Pursuits IMO) you have more room for land and perhaps some creatures to put in a turn 2 drop.

Standard Izzet doesn't really have a lot of flyers for 1 or 2 mana. So maybe move {Cloudfin Raptor} to 4. Maybe even some {Seacoast Drake} for defense in the early game

Quote from: Steerpike on November 16, 2013, 04:43:45 AM
I would say after taking away one of each, (then all the Embraces and Pursuits IMO) you have more room for land and perhaps some creatures to put in a turn 2 drop.

Standard Izzet doesn't really have a lot of flyers for 1 or 2 mana. So maybe move {Cloudfin Raptor} to 4. Maybe even some {Seacoast Drake} for defense in the early game

Updated with this :)

Update

I see that your theme is Izzet. I'll PM you my decklist that won me a few FNM's.

Quote from: IntoFire on November 29, 2013, 06:47:50 AM
I see that your theme is Izzet. I'll PM you my decklist that won me a few FNM's.

Thanks, but it is a budget deck, just forewarning you.

Quote from: Mlerner12 on November 29, 2013, 10:58:01 AM

Quote from: IntoFire on November 29, 2013, 06:47:50 AM
I see that your theme is Izzet. I'll PM you my decklist that won me a few FNM's.

Thanks, but it is a budget deck, just forewarning you.

It's relatively cheap. Plus, I didn't need to yse any {Steam Vents} or {Sulfur Falls} when I made it.

Do you have mana problems too much with this deck? I saw you said it was budget, but unless you REALLY need the guildgates I'd suggest switching 2 or so for basics, or steam vents.

Quote from: E.kann1 on November 29, 2013, 10:21:20 PM
Do you have mana problems too much with this deck? I saw you said it was budget, but unless you REALLY need the guildgates I'd suggest switching 2 or so for basics, or steam vents.

No problems, and shocks are way outside my budget :-\

If no problems, maybe try cutting some gates for basics? Will make it faster by letting lands come in untapped.

Quote from: E.kann1 on November 29, 2013, 10:26:40 PM
If no problems, maybe try cutting some gates for basics? Will make it faster by letting lands come in untapped.

I'll consider it ;)

What about cutting a dissolve and something else for 2 {lighting strike}? That thing is awesome to cast with melek and it's kinda hard to cast dissolve off the top of your deck, people will see it coming.

Sideboard maybe {cyclonic rift} and {mizzium mortars}? Cyclonic rift is good against agro in general, and mortars is good against blood baron (if you didn't counter it)

I'm trying to figure put good sideboard cards against planeswalkers you might have a hard time killing, like maybe elspeth?

Quote from: E.kann1 on November 29, 2013, 10:53:57 PM
What about cutting a dissolve and something else for 2 {lighting strike}? That thing is awesome to cast with melek and it's kinda hard to cast dissolve off the top of your deck, people will see it coming.

Sideboard maybe {cyclonic rift} and {mizzium mortars}? Cyclonic rift is good against agro in general, and mortars is good against blood baron (if you didn't counter it)

I'm trying to figure put good sideboard cards against planeswalkers you might have a hard time killing, like maybe elspeth?

I'm still thinking about the board, and I think I'll cut a Frost Breath and Dissolve for the Strikes.

at least 1 {cyclonic rift} in sb to kill devotion, IMO.

Quote from: particle on November 30, 2013, 12:44:46 AM
at least 1 {cyclonic rift} in sb to kill devotion, IMO.

That for sure ^_^

Update.

{wall of frost} while a three drop is great for defense early game and can stop aggro pretty effectively.

Quote from: Caboaddict on December 06, 2013, 02:54:51 PM
{wall of frost} while a three drop is great for defense early game and can stop aggro pretty effectively.

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