I personally LOVE them! Even if I doubt them (happens more than not) I love to listen to different points of view on popular topics.
So what (if any) conspiracies do you believe in?
Try not to bash other people's beliefs btw bc this thread is not meant as a debate as much as it is for people to explain cool and interesting conspiracies :D
Aliens :D the way I say it the universe is sooooo big there's no way We could be the only life out there xD
Oh for sure. Second question: have they visited us in the past?
Quote from: Moocow4u2 on November 13, 2013, 07:22:27 PM
Aliens :D the way I say it the universe is sooooo big there's no way We could be the only life out there xD
Over 100 planets that are suitable for human life have been found ;)
Also, can I say bacteria? It's technically alive! (Hint hint nudge nudge)
I hear too much "MaRo actually stands for Martian Rockstar". Literally :P
If you like them, you should watch the show Welcome to the NHK.
Very fun, and full of conspiracy theories.
Hmm never heard of it I shall watch it later thanks :D
Edit: oh! I took so long to type that out that many people posted lol this was a reply to "second question, have they visited us?"
Not a clue O.O I would love to think so, it would be so cool! And if they have and we are still alive then they obviously haven't wanted to kill us all lol. I've never seen much proof of it so I can't really say yes or no:P but I really hope we do make contact with some other race. I find it fascinating already how technology lets us communicate with people anywhere in the world no problem! (I have Russian buddies, Chinese buddies, a buddy in Iran.) so if we could manage to communicate outside of the planet that would be AMAZING ^_^
There's a show called "Ancient Aliens" on history that's awesome and they explore the idea of well ancient aliens lol I love that show!
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 13, 2013, 07:36:13 PM
There's a show called "Ancient Aliens" on history that's awesome and they explore the idea of well ancient aliens lol I love that show!
I watch that show every single day.
Though, the guy with the crazy hair is about as reliable as a rabid squirrel, I still enjoy watching it.
I like watching conspiracy videos on YouTube :)
I think your face is a conspiracy :P
Quote from: Birdbrain on November 13, 2013, 07:46:43 PM
I think your face is a conspiracy :P
I think conspiracy theories are just conspiracies :P
Statistically there has to be aliens.
There are hundreds of millions of planets/moons in the known universe. About 1% of those fall within "The Goldilocks Zone." This zone is the distance closest to/furthest away a planet/moon can be for liquid water, which creates life as we know it.
Imagine if life can exist beyond the boundaries we understand!
Ertai: I know what you mean hahaha some of them are nuts but they do bring up great points!
Papa: exactly! And such a good point in that life could potentially live in environments we don't see as "fit for life" (look at the bottom of the Mariana's Trench and how there are fish down there!)
Is it weird that anytime I go somewhere the first thing I notice is security cameras, and blind spots for those cameras, and yes I have been called a conspiracy theorist before
The ancient people developed irrigation techniques. "Aliens!"
The theory that Kurt Cobain choosing to play left handed led to his suicide is fascinating.
I think so. Look at horseshoe crabs. Of all the life on this planet that had blood, there's is the only one not based on iron. I think their blood is based on copper...
Go watch room 237 on netflix, it's a thought provoking film, makes me wonder if Stanley Kubrick really did have a part in the lunar landing footage.
Quote from: Mozilla butcher on November 13, 2013, 09:08:19 PM
Is it weird that anytime I go somewhere the first thing I notice is security cameras, and blind spots for those cameras, and yes I have been called a conspiracy theorist before
not weird xD I like hunting down the cameras in the stores for fun too :D I don't steal anything but if I did, many stores I know where the cameras were xD
Quote from: Vyse on November 13, 2013, 09:36:00 PM
Go watch room 237 on netflix, it's a thought provoking film, makes me wonder if Stanley Kubrick really did have a part in the lunar landing footage.
is that the one with that haunted hotel room? If so I've seen it... Awesome movie! Loved the end
Quote from: Moocow4u2 on November 13, 2013, 09:45:52 PM
Quote from: Vyse on November 13, 2013, 09:36:00 PM
Go watch room 237 on netflix, it's a thought provoking film, makes me wonder if Stanley Kubrick really did have a part in the lunar landing footage.
is that the one with that haunted hotel room? If so I've seen it... Awesome movie! Loved the end
You're thinking of Room 1408. Room 237 is a doc that explores the theory that Stanely Kubrick directed the moon landing and was so overtaken with guilt that he left a confession in the movie The Shining. It's an excellent movie. Conspiracy theory within a conspiracy theory. So meta.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on November 13, 2013, 10:15:21 PM
Quote from: Moocow4u2 on November 13, 2013, 09:45:52 PM
Quote from: Vyse on November 13, 2013, 09:36:00 PM
Go watch room 237 on netflix, it's a thought provoking film, makes me wonder if Stanley Kubrick really did have a part in the lunar landing footage.
is that the one with that haunted hotel room? If so I've seen it... Awesome movie! Loved the end
You're thinking of Room 1408. Room 237 is a doc that explores the theory that Stanely Kubrick directed the moon landing and was so overtaken with guilt that he left a confession in the movie The Shining. It's an excellent movie. Conspiracy theory within a conspiracy theory. So meta.
Gods it's so nice knowing there's people out there who know what I'm on about, not putting down moocow you just didn't quite catch what I was throwing. Yeah though, awesome film
Quote from: ConanEdo on November 13, 2013, 10:39:06 PM
For my take on the fake moon landing: http://youtu.be/P6MOnehCOUw
For my view on whether or not aliens have visited us, let me first just point out that we probably won't be able to escape our own solar system, due to the problems of having evolved to live in a terrestrial setting and then living log term in a space setting. What you're essentially telling me is that these beings perfected faster than light travel and managed to find us before we have off any sophisticated form of communication such as radio signals? Bullcrap
To your alien point the universe is approx 14 billion years old which gives life a lot of time to evolve into intelligent life. What I'm saying is that we weren't the first species on our planet long before us there were dinosaurs. Now what if it were in reverse order and we evolved when the dinosaurs did, then there we would be a planet of intelligent life long before now. Meaning that other possible planets with life could have done this and therefore in that time from back then to now they could have figured out many different ways to travel faster than light and to travel beyond their solar system
True it's a stretch but when you see things in our world and try to comprehend how ancient man, who barely knew what fire was, building these massive temples and structures with the most primitive tools you have to think that there had to have been some sort of help.
Also to your point what I'm saying is that they would have had X years on us to develope stuff our hostory dates 10's of 1,000's years ago. Imagine what we will be doing in the next say 1,000 years it will be uncomprehendable to our "primitive thinking" because our minds don't know how to do these things. Just bc we have yet to perfect space travel by NO MEANS makes it impossible
Conan has a point. I think we're all probably in agreement about the idea of life on other planets. However, physics still apply to everything in the universe. Intelligent life on other planets are still the result of evolution. Since they have not evolved and adapted to handle the cold, unforgiving, cruelty of space, they're more then likely not capable of sustaining space travel for BILLIONS of years it would take - let alone to approach the speed of light for that sustained time.
It is interesting, but I think that extraterrestrials would be similar to us. And if they haven't destroyed their planet once they figured out the Atom bomb, or once they figured out E=MC2, or whatever religious strife they may have- they would have much to say. But they'd still be a lot like us, There is no doubt they'd have many of the same obstacles we have had, their fair share of auto-immune diseases, plagues and conquerors.
But it's not just that you see these temples with stones that are thousands of pounds and have such straight cuts that's its like a machine performed them. Something that modern technology is just starting to be able to do plus you look at places like Stonehinge where the stones used were stones that had to have been imported thousand of miles and even across a body of water
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 13, 2013, 11:45:14 PM
But it's not just that you see these temples with stones that are thousands of pounds and have such straight cuts that's its like a machine performed them. Something that modern technology is just starting to be able to do plus you look at places like Stonehinge where the stones used were stones that had to have been imported thousand of miles and even across a body of water
How would any of that lead to someone believing aliens did it? I don't think any of that constitutes proof. "Ancient" people had Techbology also, engineers and contractors built the pyramids with tools. Precise stone masons existed, as well as they do today. Conceptually it's difficult for people nowadays to think of those people as being intelligent. We consider them "less advanced", but they too had technical, skilled laborers.
Pyramids are quite easy to build, fire was well known, they had written language and other marvels. As far as being primative: the insatiable bloodlust, cannibalism, ritualistic sacrifices and other behavior we consider abhorrent did eventually fall out of favor. It all gave way to what we've got now.
That's true but it's still what I believe. It's an answer that I can see actually happening. I feel like there are aliens out there and I understand the physics problem with space travel but what if they figured it out? It's nearly impossible for us to think of legitimately traveling through space but think about the Ancient Greeks Romans etc. they would laugh at you if you told them that man could fly. So why is it so hard to believe that ets developed this technology?
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 14, 2013, 12:01:57 AM
That's true but it's still what I believe. It's an answer that I can see actually happening. I feel like there are aliens out there and I understand the physics problem with space travel but what if they figured it out? It's nearly impossible for us to think of legitimately traveling through space but think about the Ancient Greeks Romans etc. they would laugh at you if you told them that man could fly. So why is it so hard to believe that ets developed this technology?
It is by definition "hard to believe". There is also an obvious limitation on what ancient Romans may believe in respect to modern man, as there are no ancient Romans to source information from on the matter. We cannot say with any accuracy what they may believe about flight.
As a matter of the limitations of space travel - either it is possible and they're here, or it is as limited as we expect (with regard to the laws of physics) and cannot be overcome. Either scenario presents no such known evidence - so with regard to aliens having visited this planet - I reject that premise due to insufficient (none) evidence.
That's true we'll hopefully someday we can overcome the laws of physics to go to distant planets and explore different areas of the universe. Maybe even go see Dominaria??? Lol
I have a friend with a knack for creating convincing conspiracy theories for comedic effect. He can do all the classic traits like misdirection, quote-mining, he invents experts and authors you've never heard of (because they don't exist) and cite articles that are not real. It's often funny to hear him invent math, witnesses, and other things to weave a tale. It is also painfully obvious that "real" conspiracies theories are often made of similar stuff, all placed on weak foundations and all admitting of the purposeful omission of certain inconvenient facts.
Thats a pretty cool guy there. That's actually a cool talent to just make stuff up on the spot to convince people of certain things. Is he a lawyer? Lol
I guess some things have weak foundations but they're just foundations and one must do their own research in determining whether or not something happened
I just watched Room 237.
It didn't really make a whole lot of sense to me.
Every so called "discovery" made within the last century is just a rediscovery of ancient knowledge. Take the atomic bomb for example. When one detonates, it creates a new type of fused rock at the impact site. Several of these rocks have been discovered in India dated at thousands of years old. The Bahavad Gita also describes a nuclear war taking place in India at about the same frame.
Quote from: Ertai on November 14, 2013, 12:57:25 AM
I just watched Room 237.
It didn't really make a whole lot of sense to me.
A lot of it is just cinephiles grasping at straws but I still enjoy all the symbolism and the honestly strange signs Kubrick injected that had to do with the lunar landing. It is what it is haha
Quote from: Vyse on November 14, 2013, 08:57:49 AM
Quote from: Ertai on November 14, 2013, 12:57:25 AM
I just watched Room 237.
It didn't really make a whole lot of sense to me.
A lot of it is just cinephiles grasping at straws but I still enjoy all the symbolism and the honestly strange signs Kubrick injected that had to do with the lunar landing. It is what it is haha
I thought a lot of it made sense when explained in context. But what they have to realize is that The Shining was originally a novel and has a clear cut meaning behind it. Kubrick was a mastermind director though. Except for when he forgot A Clockwork Orange had a last chapter and ended the movie with Alex's vision of heaven.
The Shining may be my favorite movie. I wanted to love Room 237 so much, but it's sloppy and disjointed. So many of the crazy conspiracies make so many assumptions about Kubbrick and his work. With a movie as dense and involved as the Shinning, some cling to continuity errors and tiny indecipherable signs in the background.