If I have an illusion on the field and someone plays a shock even if I mana leak it and stop the cast the illusion still is sacrificed correct?
Unfortunately, yes
Sounds right
No, while the spell is on the stack it doesn't do anything. You don't have to announce what it's targeting. Once it resolves however then the image would be sacced. If something intervenes like a {Counterspell} then nothing resolves and you keep your Illusion.
I thought it because you announce targets when it is played and although it doesnt resolve it was still targeted.
Quote from: Tetsomori on March 18, 2012, 03:06:47 PM
I thought it because you announce targets when it is played and although it doesnt resolve it was still targeted.
Im probably wrong. Wheres jester when we need him 😏
Quote from: loop-s-pool on March 18, 2012, 02:57:06 PM
No, while the spell is on the stack it doesn't do anything. You don't have to announce what it's targeting. Once it resolves however then the image would be sacced. If something intervenes like a {Counterspell} then nothing resolves and you keep your Illusion.
You're the first source I've heard to say that. Every person I've asked says the illusion would die
Quote from: loop-s-pool on March 18, 2012, 02:57:06 PM
No, while the spell is on the stack it doesn't do anything. You don't have to announce what it's targeting. Once it resolves however then the image would be sacced. If something intervenes like a {Counterspell} then nothing resolves and you keep your Illusion.
Once you target an illusion with a spell even if it is countered the illusion will get sac'ed
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on March 18, 2012, 03:12:48 PM
Quote from: loop-s-pool on March 18, 2012, 02:57:06 PM
No, while the spell is on the stack it doesn't do anything. You don't have to announce what it's targeting. Once it resolves however then the image would be sacced. If something intervenes like a {Counterspell} then nothing resolves and you keep your Illusion.
Once you target an illusion with a spell even if it is countered the illusion will get sac'ed
I see. Well thanks for the insight.
Quote from: loop-s-pool on March 18, 2012, 03:12:23 PM
Quote from: Tetsomori on March 18, 2012, 03:06:47 PM
I thought it because you announce targets when it is played and although it doesnt resolve it was still targeted.
Im probably wrong. Wheres jester when we need him 😏
Sorry I'm late. I've been mining my way through the swath of posts. This place is getting busy!
But yes, as soon as you cast a spell that has targets, you choose those targets as you announce the spell. As soon as that spell gets put on the stack, it will trigger the illusion's ability. Other than countering that ability ({Stiffle}), it will make you sac the illusion before the original spell even resolves.
If that spell only had a single target, it will be countered since the illusion is dead.
Bonus knowledge:
{Phantasmal Image}, {Phyrexian Metamorph}, {Quicksilver Gargantuan}, and {Evil Twin} can all copy an illusion without killing it because they don't target. However, {Cryptoplasm} and {Cackling Counterpart} would because they DO target.
It needs targets to be on the stack else the spell fizzles.
But a global say black sun zenith for neg 1-1 wouldn't activate the the illusions sac ability would it?
Quote from: jhirt57 on March 18, 2012, 03:37:38 PM
But a global say black sun zenith for neg 1-1 wouldn't activate the the illusions sac ability would it?
Global effects don't target, so no.
What if the spell is redirected, or does the fact that the target was changed too late?
Too late.
Literally anything that says "target" when first played will still make you sac it bc it was already the target. Changing doesnt change the fact that it was already targeted.