In a commander deck can you have cards in it that have the split mana symbol(example u can pay red or white to cast?if one of the colors are not on your commander?
Quote from: Raven316 on November 09, 2013, 11:15:25 AM
In a commander deck can you have cards in it that have the split mana symbol(example u can pay red or white to cast?if one of the colors are not on your commander?
I dont think you can. Identity is any mana symbol on the card anywhere. And you cant have identity that doesnt match your commander.
903.4. (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=903.4.): The Commander variant uses color identity to determine what cards can be in a deck with a certain commander. The color identity of a card is the color or colors of any mana symbols in that card's mana cost or rules text, plus any colors defined by its characteristic-defining abilities (see rule 604.3) or color indicator (see rule 204).
Example: Bosh, Iron Golem is a legendary artifact creature with mana cost {8} and the ability "{3}{R}, Sacrifice an artifact: Bosh, Iron Golem deals damage equal to the sacrificed artifact's converted mana cost to target creature or player." Bosh's color identity is red.
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You can use fetches I think.
Quote from: Rasser on November 09, 2013, 12:17:15 PM
You can use fetches I think.
You can, because lands are colorless and fetches use words (search for a mountain, etc) not mana symbols. So you can use an {Arid Mesa} in a mono-red commander deck. You cannot, however, use {Boros Reckoner} or other hybrid mana spells, because they include a color symbol outside of your identity.
Also you can not produce mana out of your colours no matter what. If you try to it will make colorless instead. If you steal an opponents dual land for example or using {birds of paradise}
903.9. (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=903.9.): If mana would be added to a player's mana pool of a color that isn't in the color identity of that player's commander, that amount of colorless mana is added to that player's mana pool instead.
You are encouraged to use house rules to allow Hybrid cards however. My group does, we find the commander rules a bit redundant regarding mana symbols in cards outside color identity - since you cannot produce that color mana anyway, what is the point?
Quote from: Dudecore on November 10, 2013, 11:59:21 AM
You are encouraged to use house rules to allow Hybrid cards however. My group does, we find the commander rules a bit redundant regarding mana symbols in cards outside color identity - since you cannot produce that color mana anyway, what is the point?
It's a way of limiting card choices. You wouldn't be able to use {Boros reckoner}, for example, in a deck where the comander's color identity didn't include red but does white even though you can cast the spell with all white mana.
Think of it as one of the costs of playing a pariicular commander.
Of course, house rules will trump game rules in casual play.
I dont like but gave to agree with not including hybrids outside your colors. You commander represents certain colors or traits of reality. Hybrids represent multiple traits. I dont think a commander that is just black should have access to white spells. Some (actually most) hybrids strongly represent one color but not as much the other. In many cases you would be adding affects that your colors are not meant to have.
But you can play {Boros Reckoner} in a mono-white deck in regular magic. Hybrid cards are not gold cards, their purpose is entirely different and should be treated as such IMO.