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Title: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Butch1977 on November 06, 2013, 10:26:58 AM

Standard Mill Deck

66 cards, 6 sideboard


3 {Rogue's Passage}
3 {Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx}
4 {Temple of Deceit}
5 {Swamp}
5 {Island}
4 {Watery Grave}

24 lands


4 {Phantom Warrior}
4 {Deathcult Rogue}
4 {Consuming Aberration}

12 creatures


3 {Jace, Memory Adept}
3 {Paranoid Delusions}
3 {Hidden Strings}
3 {Tome Scour}
3 {Mind Grind}
3 {Psychic Strike}
3 {Grisly Spectacle}
3 {Crypt Incursion}

24 other spells


Sideboard

3 {Breaking // Entering}
3 {Last Thoughts}

6 sideboard cards


Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Butch1977 on November 06, 2013, 10:27:27 AM
Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Vindog on November 06, 2013, 05:44:36 PM
Sideboard that spell with cipher that changes color of the word to go against gods
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Ekann1 on November 06, 2013, 06:11:48 PM
Maybe some red sources to cast entering?
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Mattao19 on November 06, 2013, 06:21:29 PM
{Traumatize}???
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Butch1977 on November 06, 2013, 06:28:15 PM
Thanks guys, definitely will SB {Trait Doctoring}. I dont know about the splash of red for entering... Just too much mana i think when breaking is 8 cards for two, any other mill players play the entering half? And as soon as i posted this deck i remembered  {Traumatize} and already added it.
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Mattao19 on November 06, 2013, 06:30:59 PM
There's better ways to deal with Gods see {Curse of Swine} it's less restrictive {Trait Doctering} sucks so I'd use CoS personally
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Butch1977 on November 06, 2013, 07:03:54 PM
Going to have to go with  {Curse of the Swine}, {trait doctoring} is really only going to help  to stop a god block during first main phase, then just really affecting {Consuming aberration} after that. When i pass the turn after cipher, devotion will be back.
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Mattao19 on November 06, 2013, 07:07:10 PM
Exactly :) plus CoS works against other decks like creature heavy decks all you do is CoS them all the {Ratchet bomb} lol BUT CoS works against your Cons. Aberration unfortunately since it exiles
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Butch1977 on November 06, 2013, 07:34:46 PM
Yeah, too bad {fling} isn't still standard. Loved it with my  {Consuming Aberration}
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Mattao19 on November 06, 2013, 07:41:43 PM
Quote from: Butch1977 on November 06, 2013, 07:34:46 PM
Yeah, too bad {fling} isn't still standard. Loved it with my  {Consuming Aberration}

Lol nice
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Butch1977 on November 06, 2013, 07:45:21 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 06, 2013, 07:41:43 PM
Quote from: Butch1977 on November 06, 2013, 07:34:46 PM
Yeah, too bad {fling} isn't still standard. Loved it with my  {Consuming Aberration}

Lol nice

I would let him sit grinding off cards, as soon as he got targeted i would {fling} was so nice....
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: DimirOverlord1300 on November 06, 2013, 09:11:08 PM
Y aren't u running {duskmantle Guildmage} and {mirko vosk}? And crypt incursion should be sideboard
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Butch1977 on November 06, 2013, 09:35:42 PM
{Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker} is too expensive. Get the same effect with a couple {Deathcult Rogue} with  {Hands of Binding} and  {Paranoid Delusions} with  {Consuming Aberration} on the board without possibilty of getting blocked for damage.  {Duskmantle Guildmage} is SB now but trying to stay light on creatures. Waiting to run it to see how many cards i'm milling in turn 4 and 5 before i committ to him.
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Butch1977 on November 06, 2013, 09:37:11 PM
Would rather have two  {Consuming Aberration} than just one Mirko for 5
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: SoshiGanrou on November 07, 2013, 03:25:40 AM
This could be expensive to do but I enjoyed the combo when I did esper mill. I would put stolen identity on my unblockable creature and clone the aberrations. Trigger and it only gets worse as the game goes. A lot of fun when invisible stalker was still around.
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: DimirOverlord1300 on November 07, 2013, 10:21:18 PM
Quote from: SoshiGanrou on November 07, 2013, 03:25:40 AM
This could be expensive to do but I enjoyed the combo when I did esper mill. I would put stolen identity on my unblockable creature and clone the aberrations. Trigger and it only gets worse as the game goes. A lot of fun when invisible stalker was still around.
Smart combo + mill = +1
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Butch1977 on November 07, 2013, 11:08:18 PM
I love {stolen identity} but at six i should be close to complete mill after CA is in play. Trying to figure out adept but i can get 8 with breaking instead of 10 with for 5 with him
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Butch1977 on November 07, 2013, 11:12:37 PM
Reworking to fit kills and cancels. Matteo got it right i think. Mill starts with control
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Mattao19 on November 08, 2013, 01:32:58 AM
Quote from: Butch1977 on November 07, 2013, 11:12:37 PM
Reworking to fit kills and cancels. Matteo got it right i think. Mill starts with control

Glad to help :)
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: DimirOverlord1300 on November 08, 2013, 06:30:48 PM
My deck can have a very easy win turn six with {jace memory adept}s second ability and {duskmantle Guildmage}s first twice
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Butch1977 on November 08, 2013, 06:35:45 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on November 08, 2013, 06:30:48 PM
My deck can have a very easy win turn six with {jace memory adept}s second ability and {duskmantle Guildmage}s first twice

Don't get me wrong, i'm running  {Duskmantle Guildmage} in my mill deck right now and he's awesome and cheap. I'm really tring to scale back to full control/mill Almost no creatures.
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Mattao19 on November 09, 2013, 02:44:32 AM
Quote from: Butch1977 on November 08, 2013, 06:35:45 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on November 08, 2013, 06:30:48 PM
My deck can have a very easy win turn six with {jace memory adept}s second ability and {duskmantle Guildmage}s first twice

Don't get me wrong, i'm running  {Duskmantle Guildmage} in my mill deck right now and he's awesome and cheap. I'm really tring to scale back to full control/mill Almost no creatures.

Now you're speaking like a Mill player! I'd actually cut all creatures other than {Omenspeaker} if you run it and {Consuming Aberrarion}
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: DylanW18 on November 09, 2013, 02:46:33 AM
No Ashiok?
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Butch1977 on November 09, 2013, 09:40:42 AM
Quote from: DylanW18 on November 09, 2013, 02:46:33 AM
No Ashiok?

{ashiok} will probably be in my next mill deck that won't have any creatures, back pocket way to get some.
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Flashley_ska on November 10, 2013, 05:23:08 AM
In light of how few permanents you have,  {Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx} feels like a poor fit here?
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Butch1977 on November 10, 2013, 08:48:42 AM
Quote from: Flashley_ska on November 10, 2013, 05:23:08 AM
In light of how few permanents you have,  {Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx} feels like a poor fit here?

You think? I was thinking 3 creatures out gives me 6 mana for the the cost of three.
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Wally on November 10, 2013, 12:37:19 PM
 {Far // Away} should be an auto include in any dimir deck. It's just too good
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Butch1977 on November 10, 2013, 12:55:11 PM
Quote from: Wally on November 10, 2013, 12:37:19 PM
{Far // Away} should be an auto include in any dimir deck. It's just too good

Great control card. It's actually in the new one i'm working that has no creatures.
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Mattao19 on November 10, 2013, 04:44:18 PM
Quote from: Butch1977 on November 10, 2013, 12:55:11 PM
Quote from: Wally on November 10, 2013, 12:37:19 PM
{Far // Away} should be an auto include in any dimir deck. It's just too good

Great control card. It's actually in the new one i'm working that has no creatures.

Always have 2 creatures in mill 1 being {AEtherling}
The other being {Omenspealer}

At least those have worked for me
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Butch1977 on November 10, 2013, 04:54:18 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 10, 2013, 04:44:18 PM
Quote from: Butch1977 on November 10, 2013, 12:55:11 PM
Quote from: Wally on November 10, 2013, 12:37:19 PM
{Far // Away} should be an auto include in any dimir deck. It's just too good

Great control card. It's actually in the new one i'm working that has no creatures.

Always have 2 creatures in mill 1 being {AEtherling}
The other being {Omenspealer}

At least those have worked for me

Ok, i'm serious missing something on  {æertherling} yes awsome card, but I just don't see the set up for it at it's mana cost. Can you give an example of a scenario so i can it's use in late game standard?
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Mattao19 on November 10, 2013, 04:58:04 PM
Control Mill is good you can get them down to a very low library but if they {Elixir of Immortality} you need a second win con. Hence {AEtherling} only drop when you have 8 mana though bc you need protection then it's almost game over as {Aetherling} is nearly impossible to remove
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Butch1977 on November 10, 2013, 05:44:25 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 10, 2013, 04:58:04 PM
Control Mill is good you can get them down to a very low library but if they {Elixir of Immortality} you need a second win con. Hence {AEtherling} only drop when you have 8 mana though bc you need protection then it's almost game over as {Aetherling} is nearly impossible to remove

Ok, starting to see what your talking about. That's exacyly the the sideboard i need to try to put in my "hopefully" no creature mill. Cause i think i'm going to have to SB creatures. Working on Modern Mill to bring in {mind funeral} and {glimpse the unthinkable}
Title: Re: Standard Mill Deck
Post by: Mattao19 on November 10, 2013, 05:59:46 PM
No don't SB Aetherling alway mb but as a 2 of