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Title: Pentavus ftw
Post by: Stromack on November 06, 2013, 02:42:27 AM
{grave pact} {pentavus} {bubbling cauldron}

Sac it back to pentavus, or gain life with the cauldron. Works with {ash nods altar for mana}
Title: Re: Pentavus ftw
Post by: Anoobass on November 06, 2013, 02:47:10 AM
You can't sacrifice for multiple different effects.  Sacrificing doesn't use the stack.
Title: Re: Pentavus ftw
Post by: Deathseide on November 06, 2013, 03:12:30 AM
Splash green for  {Parallel Lives} and/ or {doubling season} and you can use the different abilities in the combo alternatively.
Title: Re: Pentavus ftw
Post by: Vileo on November 06, 2013, 03:32:40 AM
Quote from: Anoobass on November 06, 2013, 02:47:10 AM
You can't sacrifice for multiple different effects.  Sacrificing doesn't use the stack.
he wasn't implying that. He said "or".
Title: Re: Pentavus ftw
Post by: Flashley_ska on November 06, 2013, 07:52:20 AM
Yeah but this would be better as a lock out b/g combo with something like: {Carnival of Souls}   {Blood Artist} and {Parallel Lives} the parallel lives would be required for a lockout but getting a pair of blood artists or carnivals out would do the trick nicely too!
Other black lifegain or life swaps include:  {Deathgreeter} {Dross Harvester} or {Falkenrath Noble}, and lastly I would always play {jar of eyeballs} with pentavus.
Hope you like the above
Title: Re: Pentavus ftw
Post by: Stromack on November 06, 2013, 09:27:23 AM
Thanks. Yes, blood artist is in my deck, as well as {disciple of the vault}. Like the { jar of eyeballs }!
Title: Re: Pentavus ftw
Post by: Flashley_ska on November 06, 2013, 07:11:36 PM
The only disadvantage with disciple of the vault is unless you opponent is playing artifact creatures it doesn't combo as well with mass removal like {Damnation}, whereas Blood artist can rescue you from the brink vs a selesnya token spam or similar aggro with enough creatures, remember you still need to make it to seven mana to play with your pentavus.
Title: Re: Pentavus ftw
Post by: Flashley_ska on November 06, 2013, 07:39:35 PM
Ok, so how about  {Essence of the Wild},  {Parallel Lives} and  {Pentavus}?
You would be making two 6/6 beasties for one mana, though you wouldn't be able to re-sacrifice them onto the pentavus, throw a {cathars's crusade} in and you've got even more threats!
Title: Re: Pentavus ftw
Post by: Butch1977 on November 08, 2013, 05:20:43 PM
Sacrificing a pentavite would trigger grave pact would it? Tokens just go away. They dont hit the graveyard do they?
Title: Re: Pentavus ftw
Post by: Stromack on November 08, 2013, 05:28:39 PM
Quote from: Butch1977 on November 08, 2013, 05:20:43 PM
Sacrificing a pentavite would trigger grave pact would it? Tokens just go away. They dont hit the graveyard do they?

Grave pact states that whenever a creature dies, not hit the graveyard. So yes it does :)
Title: Re: Pentavus ftw
Post by: Butch1977 on November 08, 2013, 05:40:22 PM
Quote from: Stromack on November 08, 2013, 05:28:39 PM
Quote from: Butch1977 on November 08, 2013, 05:20:43 PM
Sacrificing a pentavite would trigger grave pact would it? Tokens just go away. They dont hit the graveyard do they?

Grave pact states that whenever a creature dies, not hit the graveyard. So yes it does :)

The tempest version it's linked to says graveyard. Just read the rest they all say "when a creature is put ina graveyard"
Title: Re: Pentavus ftw
Post by: Stromack on November 08, 2013, 05:45:59 PM
Quote from: Butch1977 on November 08, 2013, 05:40:22 PM
Quote from: Stromack on November 08, 2013, 05:28:39 PM
Quote from: Butch1977 on November 08, 2013, 05:20:43 PM
Sacrificing a pentavite would trigger grave pact would it? Tokens just go away. They dont hit the graveyard do they?

Grave pact states that whenever a creature dies, not hit the graveyard. So yes it does :)

The tempest version it's linked to says graveyard. Just read the rest they all say "when a creature is put ina graveyard"

Right. Tokens hit the graveyard then fizzle.
Title: Re: Pentavus ftw
Post by: Butch1977 on November 08, 2013, 05:47:32 PM
I didnt think they hit the graveyard. Copy that good sir... I thought fizzled when leaving the battle field. Not when they hit the other zone. I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Pentavus ftw
Post by: Pleeb on November 08, 2013, 06:38:26 PM
They move to the GY and are removed as a state based action, so they are technically in the GY until a player receives priority.

110.5f (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=110.5f): A token that's phased out, or that's in a zone other than the battlefield, ceases to exist. This is a state-based action; see rule 704. (Note that if a token changes zones, applicable triggered abilities will trigger before the token ceases to exist.)
Title: Re: Pentavus ftw
Post by: Butch1977 on November 08, 2013, 06:49:46 PM
Quote from: Pleeb on November 08, 2013, 06:38:26 PM
They move to the GY and are removed as a state based action, so they are technically in the GY until a player receives priority.

110.5f (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=110.5f): A token that's phased out, or that's in a zone other than the battlefield, ceases to exist. This is a state-based action; see rule 704. (Note that if a token changes zones, applicable triggered abilities will trigger before the token ceases to exist.)

Thank you Pleeb, I GTS and found it in different forums but didnt see the actual rule.