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Title: Cipher with Consuming Abberation
Post by: Butch1977 on November 05, 2013, 01:41:56 PM
Curious if someone can shed some light. The set up is {insivible stalker} with {paranoid delusions} encoded on it. Since the definiton of cipher is "i may cast a copy of this spell" does it actually hit the stack triggering {consuming abberation} ability?
Title: Re: Cipher with Consuming Abberation
Post by: Wackaman9001 on November 05, 2013, 02:00:02 PM
Abberation fires his ability after a spell is cast. your spell goes on the stack, abberation sees that it is was cast, and places his ability on the stack. they mill until land, and then mill 3 from the delusion
Title: Re: Cipher with Consuming Abberation
Post by: Butch1977 on November 05, 2013, 02:43:11 PM
Thank you. I have been playing that wrong since i got him. Guess that's what happens when u don't read the card carefully.
Title: Re: Cipher with Consuming Abberation
Post by: DimirOverlord1300 on November 05, 2013, 05:19:19 PM
Same thing happened to me. I was notified at an went at my lgs about it. The next turn consuming abberation died :(
Title: Re: Cipher with Consuming Abberation
Post by: AkiraDeLaine on November 06, 2013, 02:05:02 PM
Does this mean ciphered spells would trigger heroic?
Title: Re: Cipher with Consuming Abberation
Post by: MementoMori on November 06, 2013, 02:06:44 PM
Yes. I saw some people getting pretty excited about {Hidden Strings} when heroic was new.
Title: Re: Cipher with Consuming Abberation
Post by: AkiraDeLaine on November 06, 2013, 02:11:07 PM
Yeah,  {Trait Doctoring} and  {Voidwalk} should work too. But hidden strings is best as it targets twice
Title: Re: Cipher with Consuming Abberation
Post by: AkiraDeLaine on November 06, 2013, 09:07:17 PM
Hmm, ok
Read parts of the discussion, should have read it all...
Still cipher seems a nice way to keep the heroes  triggering
Title: Re: Cipher with Consuming Abberation
Post by: Butch1977 on November 06, 2013, 10:32:12 PM
Ok i can see the no double trigger on one card, but I should be able to activate heroic on two different cards with {hidden strings} correct?
Title: Re: Cipher with Consuming Abberation
Post by: Pleeb on November 06, 2013, 10:42:58 PM
Yes. It is a spell you control targeting your creature with heroic. It just happens to be targeting two of them at the same time.  Both will trigger.
Title: Re: Cipher with Consuming Abberation
Post by: Butch1977 on November 06, 2013, 10:47:59 PM
Quote from: Pleeb on November 06, 2013, 10:42:58 PM
Yes. It is a spell you control targeting your creature with heroic. It just happens to be targeting two of them at the same time.  Both will trigger.

Thank you Pleeb. Still not bad. I dont usually venture out of my U/B but heroic does sound pretty fast and fun.