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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Pete on October 22, 2013, 04:22:23 PM

Title: Brave the Elements, Wrath Effects
Post by: Pete on October 22, 2013, 04:22:23 PM
If I name pro white using {Brave the Elements} in response to a {Supreme Verdict} they still get destroyed or no?
Title: Re: Brave the Elements, Wrath Effects
Post by: Arbitratur on October 22, 2013, 04:26:52 PM
Yes it still gets destroyed, it is not being targeted by the {supreme verdict}. If you read the card you posted ({Brave the Elements}), it describes it perfectly in the text

(They can't be blocked, targeted, dealt damage, or enchanted by anything of that color.)
Title: Re: Brave the Elements, Wrath Effects
Post by: Mattao19 on October 22, 2013, 06:16:19 PM
Just as a side not vs. an overloaded {Mizzium Mortars} you creatures still live (assuming you name protection from Red) bc Miz. Mortars DEALS 4 damage to EACH creature that player doesn't control. So although it doesn't target (same as Verdict) it DEALS damage thus making it useless vs. protection from Red creatures.
Title: Re: Brave the Elements, Wrath Effects
Post by: Spikepit on October 22, 2013, 06:45:04 PM
The word to help you remember what protection does is DEBT (to learn it back in the day I memorized the term "Protection has a DEBT to protect").

Damage
Enchantment
Blocked
Targeting

If a spell does or says any of these to your Protection from ______ permanents, then they have no effect and/or are illegal targets.
Title: Re: Brave the Elements, Wrath Effects
Post by: DirtyMustachio on October 23, 2013, 12:15:26 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on October 22, 2013, 06:16:19 PM
Just as a side not vs. an overloaded {Mizzium Mortars} you creatures still live (assuming you name protection from Red) bc Miz. Mortars DEALS 4 damage to EACH creature that player doesn't control. So although it doesn't target (same as Verdict) it DEALS damage thus making it useless vs. protection from Red creatures.

what your missing here is the each doesn't matter, its just the damage part that matters. much like brave the elements also stops {anger of the gods}