How does one respond to that? Like I'm looking at vintage combos and like wtf!
Bring out your clone effect. If they can't kill by your attack phase, you probably just won.
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 22, 2013, 02:04:36 PM
Bring out your clone effect. If they can't kill by your attack phase, you probably just won.
New legend rule makes said tactic null and void.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on October 22, 2013, 02:06:40 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 22, 2013, 02:04:36 PM
Bring out your clone effect. If they can't kill by your attack phase, you probably just won.
New legend rule makes said tactic null and void.
What I meant is that your clone will attack first, unless they have a haste effect in play
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 22, 2013, 02:08:56 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on October 22, 2013, 02:06:40 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 22, 2013, 02:04:36 PM
Bring out your clone effect. If they can't kill by your attack phase, you probably just won.
New legend rule makes said tactic null and void.
What I meant is that your clone will attack first, unless they have a haste effect in play
Oh I see. My bad!
Ohhhh that's evil! Nice
Quote from: CbStrad on October 22, 2013, 02:30:49 PM
{Oblivion Ring} would do it, if your mana ramp works well enough
{Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} has pro colored spells though
Quote from: Mattao19 on October 22, 2013, 02:32:53 PM
{Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} has pro colored spells though
The Oblivion Ring spell doesn't target. All it does is put an enchantment on the field. That enchantment has an ETB ability, and Emrakul does not have protection from colored abilities.
Quote from: MementoMori on October 22, 2013, 02:36:08 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on October 22, 2013, 02:32:53 PM
{Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} has pro colored spells though
The Oblivion Ring spell doesn't target. All it does is put an enchantment on the field. That enchantment has an ETB ability, and Emrakul does not have protection from colored abilities.
Wow never knew that! Thanks a lot!
Quote from: ConanEdo on October 22, 2013, 03:05:03 PM
To be perfectly honest, most of those effects won't work, since most show and tell decks cheat other cards like {{Sneak Attack}} or {{Omniscience}} onto the field. Either way you're not getting a chance to clone or o-ring.
So how would you deal with a T1 Emrakul?
Quote from: Noblellama on October 22, 2013, 03:11:17 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on October 22, 2013, 03:10:35 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on October 22, 2013, 03:07:49 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on October 22, 2013, 03:05:03 PM
To be perfectly honest, most of those effects won't work, since most show and tell decks cheat other cards like {{Sneak Attack}} or {{Omniscience}} onto the field. Either way you're not getting a chance to clone or o-ring.
So how would you deal with a T1 Emrakul?
There's a reason {{Force of Wills}} is a Legacy staple :P
Can't be countered...
He's talking about countering things like {show and tell}
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 22, 2013, 02:04:36 PM
Bring out your clone effect. If they can't kill by your attack phase, you probably just won.
Just found out this doesn't work with clone effects, as both enter at the same time. Unless it was a {Vesuvan Doppelganger} or you flashed in a clone effect later on that turn...
You can {Knight of the Reliquary} into a {Karakas} , probably get them to concede. It's hard to get {Show and Tell} combos go off more then once.
People usually hate on {Force of Will}, but it keeps the format honest, people tend not to build stupid degenerate decks because they may eat a FoW
Quote from: Mattao19 on October 22, 2013, 01:54:38 PM
How does one respond to that? Like I'm looking at vintage combos and like wtf!
{swan song} was made for vintage and legacy
Enter {Gilded Drake}.
{Ashen Rider} is a great answer to anything Show and Tell decks usually try to put in ( {Dream Halls}, {Omniscience}, {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn}, {Griselbrand})