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Title: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: Mattao19 on October 18, 2013, 03:00:12 AM
I need an answer to stop them!!!! I'm talking about the Top Deck at PT Dublin. Like how do I stop them!!! Any Colour any deck! I just want to know the weakness of it
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: Thetrufflehunter on October 18, 2013, 03:07:23 AM
Maybe {B}{R} removal/aggro? {spike jester}, {thoughtseize}, {hero's downfall}, {doom blade}, and {pithing needle} type deck.
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: Mattao19 on October 18, 2013, 03:35:13 AM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on October 18, 2013, 03:07:23 AM
Maybe {B}{R} removal/aggro? {spike jester}, {thoughtseize}, {hero's downfall}, {doom blade}, and {pithing needle} type deck.

Not a bad plan at all! Thanks!
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: Thetrufflehunter on October 18, 2013, 03:37:39 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on October 18, 2013, 03:35:13 AM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on October 18, 2013, 03:07:23 AM
Maybe {B}{R} removal/aggro? {spike jester}, {thoughtseize}, {hero's downfall}, {doom blade}, and {pithing needle} type deck.

Not a bad plan at all! Thanks!
No problem.
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: Stoneco1d869 on October 18, 2013, 03:41:56 AM
Blue devotion is gonna be tough... Just imagine when RTR Block rotates. I wonder how high {Thassa} will climb?!
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: Mattao19 on October 18, 2013, 04:04:40 AM
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on October 18, 2013, 03:41:56 AM
Blue devotion is gonna be tough... Just imagine when RTR Block rotates. I wonder how high {Thassa} will climb?!

Well nobody knows the future cards but she may drop like they lose:

{Nightveil Spector}
{Cloudfin Raptor}
{Frostburn Weird}
{Tidebinder Mage}

And those cards are what makes that deck
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: Pirate John on October 18, 2013, 04:33:41 AM
{Cyclonic rift} just beats devotion.
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: Kagain123 on October 18, 2013, 09:53:05 AM
It, like all creature aggro decks, lose to sweeps.  {Supreme Verdict} is amazing. Also,  {Cyclonic Rift} can do some wonders, though it only buys you a turn or 2
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: LadyGrixis on October 18, 2013, 12:26:31 PM
Mono Blue weakness? Lolz, Mono Blue has all the answers ;)
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: Steerpike on October 18, 2013, 01:58:09 PM
Quote from: Taysby on October 18, 2013, 11:49:17 AM
For master of waves.  {illness in the ranks}

I'm feelin that.

And yeah I'd love for Rakdos to be the answer :( i can take solace in everyone's efforts to counter it though

Question: is it a good idea to forecast blue devotion countering decks and come up with an answer for THAT? Lol
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: Edahlan on October 18, 2013, 02:26:05 PM
(Mistcutter hydra) beats anything blue, only problem is if there smart and side board (ratchet bombs) your screwed lol
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: Bop on October 18, 2013, 03:12:40 PM
 {Rakdos Charm}  (mode 3)
{Golgari Charm} (mode 1)?
{Skylasher}
{Riot Control}? Lol
{Electrickery}?
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: Stromack on October 18, 2013, 05:00:24 PM
Selesnya with enchantment destruction and populate and fog effects
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: whitedrake on October 22, 2013, 01:07:46 PM
In standard is best answer black and green combination... or jund...;)

Hero's Downfall, Doom Blade, Abrupt Decay,, Vraska the Unseen, Thoughtseize... it was my hardest match-up...:)
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: rarehuntertay on October 22, 2013, 01:12:04 PM
Best way? Just join the club... If you can't beat em, join em...
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: whitedrake on October 22, 2013, 01:15:28 PM
Hehe that was my way...:D Better to play mirror than think about way how to beat it...:D
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: rarehuntertay on October 22, 2013, 01:16:08 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on October 22, 2013, 01:14:29 PM
I ran blue devotion in draft last Friday and did ok, went 2/1 so it isn't to bad
Draft and standard constructed are different beasts...
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: DirtyMustachio on October 23, 2013, 01:22:46 AM
{Gaze of granite}

{Golgari charm}

Blue green could work to
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: Gorzo on October 23, 2013, 04:44:58 AM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on October 18, 2013, 03:07:23 AM
Maybe {B}{R} removal/aggro? {spike jester}, {thoughtseize}, {hero's downfall}, {doom blade}, and {pithing needle} type deck.

Pretty close to what my standard deck is. It runs well against mono blue devotion. Master of waves? Fine, I'll blast it with one of my 24 kill spells. Even if it's protected somehow, an overloaded {Mizzium Mortars} solves the problem (and kills practically anything else mono blue devotion runs).
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: MuggyWuggy on October 23, 2013, 07:08:00 AM
 {Izzet Staticaster} for tokens
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 23, 2013, 07:24:37 AM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on October 23, 2013, 07:08:00 AM
{Izzet Staticaster} for tokens
{Homing Lightning} for tokens ;)
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: Gorzo on October 23, 2013, 04:18:16 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on October 23, 2013, 02:57:56 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on October 23, 2013, 04:44:58 AM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on October 18, 2013, 03:07:23 AM
Maybe {B}{R} removal/aggro? {spike jester}, {thoughtseize}, {hero's downfall}, {doom blade}, and {pithing needle} type deck.

Pretty close to what my standard deck is. It runs well against mono blue devotion. Master of waves? Fine, I'll blast it with one of my 24 kill spells. Even if it's protected somehow, an overloaded {Mizzium Mortars} solves the problem (and kills practically anything else mono blue devotion runs).
Pro red saves him from mizzium

Doesn't save the tokens ;)
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: Gorzo on October 23, 2013, 05:55:40 PM
{Skylasher} might be helpful as well. I'm still shocked that Skylasher doesn't see play.
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: DirtyMustachio on October 23, 2013, 06:27:55 PM
but skylashers got dat flash
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: whitedrake on October 23, 2013, 07:28:42 PM
I can see {skylasher} more useful in few situations against mono blue devotion than Hydra... Not because of the power but because the flash... And it stops flyers in the deck... Of course hydra is great but still I think there are better ways how to successfuly face MBD..;)
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: DirtyMustachio on October 24, 2013, 04:21:22 PM
still wouldn't {ratchet bomb} be the cheapest wreck face card that could go in every deck?

nom nom nom elemental tokens nom nom
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: whitedrake on October 24, 2013, 06:40:25 PM
Imagine DM I play it in the sideboard of MUD myself...:D bcs of the mirror...;) believe me those tokens are not only one thing what is so good about this deck...;)

I love how people are concerned about those tokens... Of course huge advantage but I mostly kill by Thassa not by tokens because everyone is trying to solve Master and his tokens...;)
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: DirtyMustachio on October 24, 2013, 10:27:51 PM
Tbh the bident scares me most
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: whitedrake on October 24, 2013, 11:43:59 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on October 24, 2013, 10:27:51 PM
Tbh the bident scares me most

And there is a reason why it should...:D

Anyway no deck is perfect... MUD has its weaknesses... Black is its biggest weakness I guess...;)
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: rarehuntertay on October 25, 2013, 08:07:15 AM
If  {Master of Waves} is ailing you, do this:
1) play  {Skullcrack}
2) play either  {Anger of the Gods} or overloaded  {Electrickery}
3) master will die

Reasoning? Skullcrack stops the damage prevention part of "protection from red" for that turn...
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: Mattao19 on October 25, 2013, 03:04:25 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on October 25, 2013, 08:07:15 AM
If  {Master of Waves} is ailing you, do this:
1) play  {Skullcrack}
2) play either  {Anger of the Gods} or overloaded  {Electrickery}
3) master will die

Reasoning? Skullcrack stops the damage prevention part of "protection from red" for that turn...

How sure of this are you? Bc Protection says cannot be dealt damage. It doesn't prevent it, it just can't happen. That's how I read it.

But I'm not sure so I just want to make sure
Title: Re: Mono Blues Devotion Weakness?
Post by: Mattao19 on October 25, 2013, 03:46:54 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on October 25, 2013, 03:41:23 PM
He is correct, skullcrack hits the player but debilitated all damage prevention that turn. Including damage that would have been prevented due to protection from damage source.

Legit combo!

Ok sweet! Just wanted to check