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Title: Tom Naya
Post by: Tombo175 on October 14, 2013, 03:07:09 PM

 Tom Naya

75 cards, 15 sideboard


1 {Overgrown Tomb}
1 {Plains}
1 {Horizon Canopy}
2 {Misty Rainforest}
1 {Stirring Wildwood}
2 {Sacred Foundry}
4 {Arid Mesa}
2 {Stomping Ground}
4 {Verdant Catacombs}
1 {Marsh Flats}
2 {Forest}
1 {Kessig Wolf Run}
1 {Temple Garden}

23 lands


4 {Noble Hierarch}
3 {Knight of the Reliquary}
3 {Scavenging Ooze}
3 {Voice of Resurgence}
4 {Loxodon Smiter}
3 {Deathrite Shaman}
3 {Kitchen Finks}
4 {Tarmogoyf}

27 creatures


4 {Lightning Helix}
2 {Domri Rade}
4 {Lightning Bolt}

10 other spells


Sideboard

2 {Woolly Thoctar}
2 {Qasali Pridemage}
1 {Domri Rade}
2 {Stony Silence}
2 {Bonfire of the Damned}
2 {Fulminator Mage}
2 {Elspeth, Knight-Errant}
2 {Path to Exile}

15 sideboard cards


Title: Re: Tom Naya
Post by: Tombo175 on October 14, 2013, 03:10:41 PM
Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Tom Naya
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 14, 2013, 07:46:02 PM
Not sure you would want {Scavenging Ooze}, {Deathrite Shaman} and {Tarmagoyf} in the same deck. You are relying on graveyard a bit much and if someone pulls out a {Leyline of the Void} or a {Rest In Peace} you would be pretty screwed.
Title: Re: Tom Naya
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on October 14, 2013, 11:25:41 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 14, 2013, 07:46:02 PM
Not sure you would want {Scavenging Ooze}, {Deathrite Shaman} and {Tarmagoyf} in the same deck. You are relying on graveyard a bit much and if someone pulls out a {Leyline of the Void} or a {Rest In Peace} you would be pretty screwed.
I can't stand comments like this. Those would have no affect siding against this deck because it is aggro. You get rid of the creatures, end of story. And BGx is the strongest deck in modern using those creatures and Dark Confidant as there core. There is more to this deck than the graveyard.

Wholly Thoctar seems better in the main deck since you're also playing Deathrite Shaman. The synergy is only onesided.
Title: Re: Tom Naya
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on October 15, 2013, 06:39:51 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on October 15, 2013, 11:46:56 AM
Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on October 14, 2013, 11:25:41 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 14, 2013, 07:46:02 PM
Not sure you would want {Scavenging Ooze}, {Deathrite Shaman} and {Tarmagoyf} in the same deck. You are relying on graveyard a bit much and if someone pulls out a {Leyline of the Void} or a {Rest In Peace} you would be pretty screwed.
I can't stand comments like this. Those would have no affect siding against this deck because it is aggro. You get rid of the creatures, end of story. And BGx is the strongest deck in modern using those creatures and Dark Confidant as there core. There is more to this deck than the graveyard.

Wholly Thoctar seems better in the main deck since you're also playing Deathrite Shaman. The synergy is only onesided.
Wooly Thoctar seems like a wasted spot in this deck. He's already covered in the under costed fatty department, what he needs is more utility like Linvala it Ajani.
How is Woolly Thoctar wasted? With Deathrite Shaman, Knight only gets weaker and is not as strong as Woolly Thoctar is on turn 3. And it doesn't get weaker from other opponent's Deathrite Shaman and Scooze.
Title: Re: Tom Naya
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on October 16, 2013, 07:15:07 AM
Quote from: ConanEdo on October 16, 2013, 01:04:42 AM
Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on October 15, 2013, 06:39:51 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on October 15, 2013, 11:46:56 AM
Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on October 14, 2013, 11:25:41 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 14, 2013, 07:46:02 PM
Not sure you would want {Scavenging Ooze}, {Deathrite Shaman} and {Tarmagoyf} in the same deck. You are relying on graveyard a bit much and if someone pulls out a {Leyline of the Void} or a {Rest In Peace} you would be pretty screwed.
I can't stand comments like this. Those would have no affect siding against this deck because it is aggro. You get rid of the creatures, end of story. And BGx is the strongest deck in modern using those creatures and Dark Confidant as there core. There is more to this deck than the graveyard.

Wholly Thoctar seems better in the main deck since you're also playing Deathrite Shaman. The synergy is only onesided.
Wooly Thoctar seems like a wasted spot in this deck. He's already covered in the under costed fatty department, what he needs is more utility like Linvala it Ajani.
How is Woolly Thoctar wasted? With Deathrite Shaman, Knight only gets weaker and is not as strong as Woolly Thoctar is on turn 3. And it doesn't get weaker from other opponent's Deathrite Shaman and Scooze.

But there are better things that could be run like Ajani. His presence is much stronger than a vanilla fattie. Or Linvala who should be taking one of those sideboard slots. I will admit knight of the reliquary is not my favorite choice, but the staggering number of options that are clearly better than Wooly Thoctar (Chandra, Linvala, Ajani) mean he shouldn't make the list.
Yes, there are better things to run. But a curve is there. Taking out a 3 drop for any four drops would affect your curve a lot. Some cards just replace others for the curve specifically. I think you're not getting what I am going for. Keep the curve low, have enough strong efficient creatures. While there are better cards, there are better reasons to run other cards.
Title: Re: Tom Naya
Post by: DeathlyFoiend on October 16, 2013, 07:25:35 AM
Also, can I mention to switch Helix for Path for a better catch all spell?
Title: Re: Tom Naya
Post by: Bman0121 on October 23, 2013, 08:14:01 AM
Quote from: DeathlyFoiend on October 14, 2013, 11:25:41 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on October 14, 2013, 07:46:02 PM
Not sure you would want {Scavenging Ooze}, {Deathrite Shaman} and {Tarmagoyf} in the same deck. You are relying on graveyard a bit much and if someone pulls out a {Leyline of the Void} or a {Rest In Peace} you would be pretty screwed.
I can't stand comments like this. Those would have no affect siding against this deck because it is aggro. You get rid of the creatures, end of story. And BGx is the strongest deck in modern using those creatures and Dark Confidant as there core. There is more to this deck than the graveyard.

Wholly Thoctar seems better in the main deck since you're also playing Deathrite Shaman. The synergy is only onesided.
I have too 100% agree with you I hate it when people make dumb comments when they almost know literal nothing anout the format or how to play magic on a higher skill level